Also, as someone who’s not a man-
Isn’t it demeaning? To act like you’re so helpless that you need a big strong man to come save you? Isn’t it insulting? To think you’re the only one who’s ever been a victim, so protecting you is a man’s job?
I’m not going to ask the men in my life to protect me, because I know we already have each other’s backs.
Trans men don’t have to be personally useful to you for them to be valuable members of the community. Stop treating them like tools.
Stop asking trans men to throw themselves on the sword so you can be shielded from transphobia.
Stop acting like it’s their job to protect you, just because they’re men.
Don’t ask trans men to defend you or speak up for you if you’re not willing to return the favor.
We’re supposed to protect each other regardless of identity; it needs to be a two-way street. That’s the whole fucking point of this community.
People need to stop using the term “baeddel” for themselves OR others.
It is an intersexist and transmisogynistic slur.
And yes, this includes screenshots with the name cropped out!
I'm not trying to call anyone out here, or vague about fellow transmasc-friendly posters, but I really do think this is a huge problem in tumblr discourse in general.
I know, there are people being awful to trans men on tumblr, and transandrophobia is a huge fucking problem on this site. I can think of a handful of blogs who are the worst offenders- I'm sure anyone who's been on here longer than a week knows their names.
But they feed off of this attention! When you reblog their posts to argue with them, or screenshot their takes, you're just spreading their influence around. They're not going to change, they're not going to stop being cruel or transphobic, and arguing with them will only make you feel worse and give them more ammo to use against you.
Not to mention, if somebody has these blogs blocked, and you post untagged screenshots of their shit, you're making people see them whether they like it or not! Somebody who blocked a bigot so they didn't have to deal with their rancid-ass takes shouldn't have to see them screenshotted on 12 different trans-friendly blogs.
Focus more on uplifting the voices of trans men and transmascs than engaging with bullies!
“I don’t get it, do trans men want to be treated like men (read: like cis men) or not? We treat them like men and they complain, but if we treated them like women they would also complain. I don’t get it!”
How’s about not treating different genders of people differently solely because of their gender?
Why do you treat men and women differently?
Is that not the exact cis patriarchy we’re trying to do away with?
I figure when you’re involved in any discourse you’re more likely to see the best of the people you agree with and the worst of those you disagree with. So I’ve been trying to follow “both sides” of the discourse. Not because I actually agree with the anti-transmasc crowd, dear god no, but so I can have an easier time keeping an eye out for transmisogynists on our “side”
Buuuuut
I rarely see any actual transmisogyny?? Most of the time it’s strawman arguments accusing the entire transmasc community of something or other, or trying to police what words they can use.
The rest of the posts are stuff like “these vile transandrodorks HATE all trans women and think we should SHUT UP and DIE FOREVER” with no screenshots to back it up or show who said it.
Over and over: “transandrobros think trans women aren’t oppressed!” and “transandophobia-truthers are telling trans women they’re all lying about their experiences!” and “transandrodorks say transmisogyny isn’t real!”
WHO IS SAYING THIS!?
They can’t keep telling people this is what we believe without any proof! And if a substantial of people on our side are really saying this shit, I can’t find them!
I’ve blocked like, a handful of actual transmisogynists in the transandrophobia tag. Two of them were obvious cryptoterfs. One of them was cis. Please tell me where all the rest of these transphobic people are so we can report and deplatform them, jesus christ.
It’s also so much harder to find them when these assholes cry “transmisogyny” every time a trans man tries to talk about his own oppression. Or points out something they’re saying is hurting transmascs. Or breathes.
And for the record I’m not talking about the transmisogyny tag. Transmisogyny is absolutely real and a huge problem in queer circles. I’m looking at discourse blogs in particular.
It’s just… ugh. :/
The only transmisogyny I've seen from within the trans community has been from other trans women/fems, accusing trans women/fems who speak out against transandrophobia of being secretly men, or brainwashed.
Never seen a trans man act like that towards a trans woman/fem.
periodic reminder that if you think one type of trans person is "more oppressed" than another type or if you believe that certain categories of trans people shouldn't have terms to describe their own unique types of oppression i do not want you following my blog. please fuck off immediately
the statements "clothes don't have gender" and "clothes can and do invoke gender dysphoria and euphoria for many people" can and should coexist.
May I add that anybody with visible top surgery scars is at risk of being attacked?
Did we all collectively forget about that cis guy with gynecomastia scars who was assaulted because people thought he was a trans man?
It's not just about looking too manly, or having visible breasts. Any visible indicator that you're trans puts you at risk.
Trfs: "transandrobros keep making everything about trans women, even when it has nothing to do with trans women!"
Also trfs:
Yep! That's because it's not an actual argument or discussion. It's people trying to silence trans men and anyone who defends them.
From what I've seen, some of these people also believe that trans men are simultaneously "late transition, indistinguishable from cis men and immune to misogyny" and "Basically cis girls with D-Cups, hiding behind their femininity, and a week from detransitioning into a terf" There's so many contradictions in anti-transmasc viewpoints, it's a wonder that anyone falls for them. It's all disgustingly misogynistic and transphobic, and reeks of truscum and terf logic. I'll say what I always say, don't argue with them. Just block and move on. Most trans people ain't like that.
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