thomas recently made some interesting comments about chloe on twitter (which you can read in this post). i’ve been thinking about chloé’s potential redemption arc for a while now, so i wanted to respond to those comments that seem to shut down the possibility of redemption
i have to start by saying that by no means am i a chloé stan, and i am the furthest things from a marinette salter lol (just clarifying because thomas’s points call out those two groups in particular, which are usually the same group). i am also generally supportive of thomas/the writing team and like the direction the show is going. but this is one case where i am hoping it will turn out differently than he’s implying.
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i get that a lot of people dont like chloe redemptions bc they want her to be the bad bitch she deserves to be but what ur forgetting is that u can be a kind bad bitch. u can be a caring bad bitch. lila and gabriel fulfill the roles of irredeemable villains for the show (one for ladynoir, one for adrienette), why do we need another one. chloes meanness stems from severe childhood trauma and neglect . tahts not a villain. thats a victim. the difference is that when chloe is shown genuine affection and caring she falters. for a split second shes not so evil. gabe and lila literally never do that. the closest they got to that was when gabe made the wish but lila is shown ENDLESS love and compassion and never once does she think hey, maybe i can be good with these people. i think chloe deserved redemption bc she WANTED it. anyway i love chloe. LET HER LIVE!! IN PEACE!!!!
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WAIT WHAT. the spouse-ification of chloe?? omg i never noticed this in canon?? PLS expand!!!
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What Marinette claims:
"Revealing a secret is the right thing to do when not doing so would put the victim in fatal danger"
What Marinette DOES:
"I would rather risk grieving Adrien than risk facing any kind of personal consequences for my own actions and choices. I will not ask for help despite having numerous people I could involve to find a different solution here than breaking Adrien's literal source of life. But I wont. That could risk people being mad at me and that's more important to prioritize preventing than Adrien's death"
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On Zoe gaining from Chloe's losses,
Andre, most normal people viewing it from the outside would see it as no great loss, but the show narrative treats Chloe as being too awful to deserve a "wonderful" father like Andre and him finally having the loving daughter he deserves, further I don't think a real person in Chloe's position would consider what happened a good thing.
The Bee miraculous, Chloe isn't unique in linking her sense of self worth to her role as a hero. Marinette in particular relies on being Ladybug. Also, it was pretty clear how she felt about it and Zoe took the miraculous anyway.
I don't blame Zoé too much, she protested and Ladybug insisted. Imagine you're a 12-13 y/o and a superhero tells you to do something.
And yeah the narrative can go suck eggs on André. He is a piece of shit father who shifts blame onto everyone but himself for all of his actions. He has been that way from the beginning. He hasn't stopped as of the last time we saw him.
So I will never write it as a loss having that man out of Chloé's life.
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Hi I’m being lazy today but I remembered that someone did a Chloe month last year for may and I checked back today and they did not come back this year sadge
Did not do mask cuz I forgot to add it in my sketch and then just did not care enough
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