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“Find out what makes you kinder, what opens you up and brings out the most loving, generous, and unafraid version of you―and go after those things as if nothing else matters. Because, actually, nothing does.”
— George Saunders
Just want to add:
7 Cups of Tea, the site that has a free “listener” service, also has online therapy. It’s $37.50 per week, billed monthly, which is $150. They do seem to have a more limited number of therapists, but worth checking out!
do you have any advice for someone whose avpd has gotten so bad they've developed agoraphobia? i was supposed to go to college this year but i can't leave the house and i'm just really tired of being like this
Hey.
It sounds like you should talk to a professional about this. It sounds like your agoraphobia is causing you a lot of problems and a professional is going to be able to help you overcome it. You can go to your family doctor for a referral or search online. You should also tell someone about how you’re feeling. A parent or relative, or anyone that can support you.
Sorry we couldn’t be more help. Take care. - Jay.
Yes! This is very important. Those thoughts are coming from your brain because of your brain -- not because of who you are.
Think of all the situations you've experienced in the last year. Think of how many things you survived or accomplished or created. (Seriously, do it!)
Did you feel victorious and strong at the time? That would have been a feeling that was relevant to the situation, caused by the situation.
But a lot of us didn't feel inspired and mighty because of our victories. A lot of us still felt inadequate and fearful and ashamed. We didn't celebrate. We weren't in the moment. Our feelings weren't happening because of our lives -- just because of our brains.
Those are arbitrary feelings. In a way, they’re not quite tied to reality. Because they aren't dependent on what actually happens.
And when you're able to recognize them as such, it's a little easier to think of them as just background noise. “Oh, I’m actually anxious no matter what is happening around me. I actually feel bad about myself no matter how my life is going.”
And that can give you the chance to see what other feelings you may be having, in response to the actual situation.
Emotions are things that live and breathe, flex and bend and run parallel and contradict each other. They’re messy and real. So if how you feel doesn’t actually change with the situation -- something’s probably stuck!
something i need to repeat to myself five billion times: feeling that you’re the worst person in the world is part of a symptom, not some unfortunate, ultimate truth. there is nothing personal about it, despite what your brain may tell you.
drive-by advice: find ways to recharge your extrovert batteries without draining your avoidant ones!
here’s a shortcut –
is there stuff that doesn’t involve direct socializing at all, but still lets you extrovert and absorb experiences?
for example
going to a music concert or festival
a sports game
a flea market or farmer’s market
traveling
visiting a public park
eating at a restaurant
driving in traffic
walking through the city
hiking
spending time with animals/pets
expressing yourself creatively
people-watching
reading forums or nonfiction books
and under the readmore, I’ll throw in some questions that might be helpful to think about~ good luck!
try and figure out what types of socializing you like, and what you don’t like. think about the people involved, and the level of personal interactivity:
how many people you’re with
how well you know them
the location
any distracting activities you’re doing
whether you’re doing the activities together (like playing video games against each other) or individually (like studying), interacting actively or passively
is there a pre-decided/built in time limit?
and (very important)
the level of personal connection / vulnerability / visibility while you’re with them
as an extrovert, what makes you feel better? what kind of interactions seem really satisfying to you? (there are different shades of extroversion; there’s no right or wrong answers, the important thing is to figure out what works for you and what you need)
do you need to have a personal discussion with someone in order to feel content? or just talk about random (impersonal) stuff? or casually bump into each other throughout the day? or hang out quietly in the same space?
(also consider, who qualifies? if there’s more than one person, what common traits do they have? how do they make you feel? can you generalize what it is about them that makes them good to spend time with? + who else do you know that fits those traits?)
and with your AvPD:
what kind of stuff makes you super avoidant? (this is hard to think about, but try, even tiny clues are helpful!)
what type of interaction do you really dread? try and identify what aspects of it are contributing: is it being around too many people at one time? too few? people you know very well, or not well enough? the environment – in public vs. semi-public vs. private? settings that discourage talking (movie theater, library) vs. encouraging it (eating a meal together)? what about when you’re at home vs other places?
okay, one more point:
if you don’t currently have anyone to interact with in positive ways, or if meeting people is one of your biggest problems right now, still think about this stuff. try and imagine your ideal situation to socialize in, with all these variables. really picture what you’d enjoy!
and then if possible, go do those things, even if you do them alone.
why? because the kind of person you want to hang out with is gonna be drawn to the same places & activities as you. you don’t even have to “be friends” with them if that’s not what you’re looking for; you can just meet up to {play pool, video games, chess, basketball} or be workout buddies or watch new films or whatever you’ve figured out is what you want. especially if you want someone who’s not invested in forming a Close Emotional Attachment – then you’re basically looking for a person who cares more about {whatever activity}, and they’re probably already there.
plus, even if you don’t (or don’t want to) meet anyone, you still get to do fun stuff that you enjoy! and that generally makes life a little better :>
if you DO want to really make friends with someone -- in the typical sense, with mutual support and trust and sharing feelings -- you can still do it that way! though there are other ways to meet people as well.
but you see it all depends on how you want to connect with people. that’s why, in any scenario, it’s important to figure out what you want and need :)
being extroverted and avoidant fucking sucks
I don’t have personal experience with this, but I’m sure it is and I’m sorry that you’re struggling. And I’m also sure that plenty of others are dealing with the same thing, so know that you’re not alone. I wish you the best!
- Shinji
Fuck being "cool"! Fuck being "normal"! 2020 will be all about being genuine and kind while learning to respect and embrace our own and other people's harmless differences even when they go against social norms.
Apologies for the format and need to zoom, but I thought this response was wonderful
the negativity that is going on in the world isn’t your fault, and you’re not a horrible person - please try your best to believe that, and to continue to fight for positivity in your own space, even if it’s just for yourself, or just in the smallest way; that light will grow, and make the world better, so have hope
(Part of my ongoing series of posts on Avoidant Personality Disorder.)
AvPD isolates you from being truly connected, being part of the world.
It keeps you from creating trust-filled, satisfying relationships.
It also keeps you from connecting with yourself, like I wrote about in another post.
It keeps you from truly feeling -- and even sometimes recognizing -- your own emotions, your own wishes.
Avoiding our feelings and being detached from ourselves is not normal.
And just like the pain of a physical injury, this pain is a reaction that comes from seeking wholeness. It’s calling attention to a real problem.
It’s okay to try and fix the problem.
Even if it’s negative.
Yes! Even if it’s absolutely terrible.
Ignoring bad feelings is sometimes necessary for survival. And if it is for you right now, you probably already know it. That’s okay, and you can probably still do a lot of these things.
Remember: There’s no right or wrong way to heal.
A place where there isn’t anyone who will judge you or make fun of you -- a place just for you, like a private journal or sketchbook or blog. Even the best option will probably feel kind of uncomfortable, so don’t obsess over finding the perfect outlet for this!
Do whatever you can to make it feel safe and out of reach from everyone.
And then spend time there, regularly.
Once you get used to it, try noticing what it’s like to not have anybody looking over your shoulder.
Can you even imagine it? It’s a terrible contradiction that we spend so much time alone, but so little time feeling un-watched. Free of observers and judging eyes.
Within the protection of your solitude, try writing about your feelings. Or drawing or singing or collaging about them -- whatever works for you.
It doesn’t have to be pretty, and it’s okay if it doesn’t feel natural. It’s a skill, and you have to gain proficiency just like with any other skill. You'll get there; it doesn’t matter how slow or fast that happens.
As long as you’re trying, you’re making progress.
If you learn one tiny thing about yourself, or if you get a little more used to expressing yourself -- then it’s a success.
This is so, so hard, and it’s okay if you’re not ready to try.
But when you are, just try being kind to yourself. Try being gentle. Give yourself the benefit of the doubt once in a while.
And if you can’t do it, try not to hate yourself too much for failing. It’s OK -- if "official permission” existed, this would be it: You don’t have to punish yourself.
Just because they feel good. It’s OK to do that.
In particular, look for things that just sound like they would be nice, right about now. Something that you just ... feel like doing.
Even if it’s only a tiny thing, like making yourself a cup of tea, or taking a nice bath, or re-reading your favorite book.
Learn what it feels like to want something, and learn what it’s like to give yourself something good.
After doing anything, if you find yourself retracing your mistakes, blaming yourself, or feeling sick and anxious and guilty -- take a minute to redirect your thoughts.
Ask yourself: what went right? In what ways did I succeed?
It doesn’t matter if your brain is throwing lots of fails and embarrassment at you; that’s like a TV channel that never turns off. You don’t have to pay attention to it all the time. Just, when you have the energy to, deliberately focus on the good anyway.
The smallest success still counts: “Hey, I remembered what building my class is in! I was basically on time! I didn’t trip over anyone! I learned something!” Even if you have to name truly silly things for “wins,” start with those.
The point is giving yourself credit, instead of bringing yourself down.
And you might be surprised at how well things actually went -- when you start looking at how well they went, instead of how badly.
...in my opinion, and in my own experience. Because this is how you recover your self-esteem.
The simple way to see AvPD is that other people judge and hurt us.
But the more complex truth is that their judgment only has the power to affect us that much, because we’ve never claimed the right to judge for OURSELVES.
We never learned to like ourselves, or to be kind to ourselves. We never learned to take care of ourselves. To own who we are, as human beings. To decide OUR OWN value.
That takes some intense courage. But you don’t have to do it all at once.
Every single thing I listed here is about:
reclaiming your inner life for yourself,
finding your feelings and wishes again,
practicing taking care of your feelings.
Taking care of yourself means healing shame. It means giving yourself value.
We all need to be validated, listened to, cared for, and given positive value. We need dignity.
But when you can give those things to yourself in abundance, you don’t have to rely on other people’s scraps for your self-esteem.
And that’s how you get free. The fear will still be there. But it won’t control you.
tavpdfw youre too afraid to express your honest opinion on something so you keep your thoughts as neutral as possible