What Is Art If Not Transformative?

what is art if not transformative?

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What ISN'T FanFiction?
This episode is a meta fanfiction discussion between ChaosBlue and Neel.

Happy Sunday, ya’ll! We’re a bit behind with regular episodes this month due to scheduling conflicts, but we’ll be back on track very soon. In the meantime I’ve dropped a new bonus episode today!

This is a meta discussion between me and Neel.  We discuss the peculiar nature of fanfiction and wonder aloud if it really differs all that much from what we would call ‘original’ published fiction. We talk about the powerful influence of corporate publishing channels and the way corporate power shapes literary elitism, which in turns shapes the cultural narrative of art and literature.

Thank you for coming on the show @kissing-chefs!! 

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4 years ago

lemme add some stuff and propose an ending continuing from 15.18 as is, with all the occured shit like erasing jo and ellen and destroying mary’s arc.

meta writers, i love you, and i will tresure stories no matter what, but here look at these lamps of ideas(hehe).

scattered points.

maybe even dean dies. and he dies unceremoiously, poetic , not everyone dies a hero in battle. BUt he dies not like this, not willingly, not giving up like this.

He fights for sam, and when he realizes he can’t cas comes to his mind, and at that he at last drops his self hate, and apologizes, the monolgue is an honest confession to sam that he needed him, and he neede to protect his younger brother. that is why he hunted. to be the soldier he thought he should be.

But he was sorry he dragged sam here, and he tells sam how he’s sorry for hurting those he loves. for hurting him while he hated his supposed failure of not bein able to take care of him, of hurting cas, and of all of hurting jack, because he thought he’d lost cas becoz of him, not wanting to see cas in jack, he tells sam that it was wrong, but he didnt know why he was this way, but he knew actually, and tells sam about his love for cas, and how in the end it was him cas died for. he tells sam about the confession and sam asks dean why he didnt say anything, and he says “ i thought then he wouldnt be happy but he’d be alive. but cas loved me more than i ever thought i loved him.”

then sam tells dean to let go, and die in peace, yada yada , to meet cas. to go, live.

sam though opposed by dean’s last wish, can’t abondon the hunters, so he and eileen together go and help hunters, saving monsters instead of killing them, and rebuilding their live, they keep in touch with claire and charlie and the kids grow up.

jody and dona adopt more, and donnatelo is like a godfather to everyone.

In heaven dean meets bobby, who knows, and bobby just opens a beer, and pretends to have that casual talk bobby has, and he reveals how jack let amara free, because that’s all she wanted, and now heaven and hell were in harmony, with rowena guiding his god ways and cas parenting the 3 yr old he is. lucifer is now an uncle of sorts to jack, and has reddeemed himself watching the cas-jack relationship, which his father never gave him. the archaengels reunite and the king of hell keeps the fun alive in the world with their and the demons sass. Lucifer and Amara get along and show Jack celestial power and the brilliance that was in CHuck , all along pointing out his flaws more obviously, Chuck is old and now friends with donatello, still the way he was, but he’s human, and he’s sort of just chillin, and to be honest, he isnt fond of eTerniiity now.

jack grows a world with the beauty Lucifer saw in his fathers creation and the peace Amara could create in emptiness, and Cas told him that in this empty space, was love.

Before Bobby can go any ahead after “heaven is different now son “bla bla, we have a “hello dean” from cas who’s been in the bar, as expected, and they hug, and before anything happens, dean says where’s jack and we see Jack back there playing with the ferns(fractals huh) and he goes “hello” and then dean rushes to him gives a monologue sorry, says he was angry( purgatory vibes huh), and then says what he didnt then. he says he took out his anger on jack, but that hurt him more, because he loved cas, and jack reminded him of cas, and he couldnt control what he did, but inside, he knew he was hurting cas, and that made him even more guilty. he says i’m sorry jack, i love you, and i’ll never be your father, but i have and will love your father. and then Bobby gies “ well aint that romantic” and then the boys leave on a ride in the impala .

heaven goes on, with visits sometimes from jack, lucifer , amara. bobby and jo keep charlie visitin there cool af house.

on earth, sam and eileen convince rowena into a strategy to save all monsters from destruction, and the fun element is kept alive by crowley ( lucifer sprinkles random naughtiness on this little earth as he grows to find it enjoyable to be fair )

bonus points for lucifer making john apologize, to everyone. ( But bobby still is the dad)

mary gets a monologue and the respect she deserves. WHen sam and eilieen come over, kevin totally becomes their adopted son-ish and eileen is as much of a dean cas shipper as sam, they enjoy watching dean go nicknaming, and they always giggle at their eye thing.

added ultra bonus, when sam and eileen come over to the roadhouse, cas is being “sTeve “ organizing the beers and stuff and ,  guess what the cassete player is playing dean’s mixtape and they both enter, look at cas being this naive  softie and dean comes over with in hiz cozy comfy overall with a wooden large box of more cassetes , singing to the mixtape and putting them down with a thud, a complete mismatch of behaviours in one person at one time, and he goes on to cas with” want to dance?”, and cas is “Deaaaa”n, and they twirl lamp style to notice eileen blushing and sam face palming. dean then completely goes into DEAN mode , butchy face, and cas goes in signs goes “frekles made me this mixtape” and well......

fun.

if there’s to be a happy ending, this is how its done.  plus this can end with chuck dying, and coming back to make a pie shop he is relentlesly proud of, and no-one disagrees.

if u do write one plz tag me or send me a link :) luv ya all.

Reasons I didn't like the finale that have nothing to do with destiel so wincesties can stop saying its the only reason I didn't like it.........and yes a lot of them are about Dean

They reduced Deans entire complex character to just being a brother and loving pie and cars

Dean was brutally murdered and left suffering and in pain while being terrified. And as someone whose comfort character is Dean.....that was traumatizing and disgusting to watch.

Dean died on a hunt their dad failed to finish so he really did die being "daddy's blunt little instrument."

Dean's entire character development was just thrown in the trash. He spent 15 years learning self love and self worth and learning he was more than just a hunter. He had a purpose that wasn't just looking out for other people. He was given storylines that had nothing to do with Sam or their toxic codependency so he could grow out of it and be a big boy all on his own without his brothers help........ only for it to end with him and Sam and no one else. It ended with them being toxic and very much codependent.

Sam was left alone for another 40 years being miserable and sad, and even tho he had a family, it wasn't enough for him. He wss miserable his entire life before he died. That is no way to live.

No one went to Dean's funeral besides his brother and his dog. Jody? Donna? Garth? Claire, Kaia, Alex, Patience?? None of them were there. What about the AU people that Jack brought back? They couldn't go to his funeral as a thank you for saving the world?

Eileen wasn't even MENTIONED so that was just disrespectful to her and Shoshanna.

Jared's old man wig

The fact that John Winchester was confirmed to be in heaven even tho he physically and mentally abused his children and forced them to grow up by themselves most of the time and thus creating a bunch of neglect trauma. Hence the toxic codependency.

They should have talked about Rufus more. I miss that old fart.

Cas was only brought up 2 times the entire episode. He sacrificed himself time and time again for the boys and his son and has been a main character for like 8 years now and yet he was left with being mentioned only 2 times and we didn't even get to see him. They treated him as if he wasn't an important part of the Winchesters' lives for the past 12 years.

It was confirmed that Cas was alive and well and in heaven with his family he built over the years but we didn't get to see it.

Original Charlie was supposed to be in the finale and she wasn't either.

It needed more Dean and Miracle. Seriously.

The pacing was weird and off and felt like they rushed it just to get it over with. Like you're ending a show that has been on for 15 years that has a large fanbase....maybe you shouldn't rush the ending. Just some food for thought.

Those are just some of the reasons I didn't like it. So stop saying the only reason I hated it was because Dean and Cas weren't shown together.


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4 years ago
How Dare This Be Hidden In The Tags.

how dare this be hidden in the tags.

Dean & Jesus? More alike than you think.

Chosen by god for sufferring

Sexy as fuck

Acab commie

Son of Mary

Dated castiel

Died getting nailed

Twunk

Boss ass bitch, said eat the rich


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3 years ago
Roasted Radish Linguine // Recipes For Two By RogueTranslator // Recipe 1/26

Roasted Radish Linguine // Recipes for Two by RogueTranslator // recipe 1/26

ref (added the noodles myself 😌)


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4 years ago
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Nights

Maybe it’s the new moon, but today I feel as if I’ll fade away. That my existence will cease its hold it has on me and I’ll slip through realities fingers. That laying here still will force me to drift away into my dreams. Where my innards haunt me and comfort me alike. And if I wake up, I’ll feel ok again. I know the pain won’t ever go away. But for as long as I lay here, it will be forgotten. So let me lay here for eternity. Please let me lay here.


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4 years ago

sam would say-”i’m not gonna have it”

boop.

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4 years ago

ok fine .

misha collins may have the capacity to do good with intentions.

but he’s MISHA fucking collins

he is proof that this inherently toxic excuse of“being white, being a middle aged man, being in a societely acceptable relation, being upper middle class”, nothing abosolutely nothing makes u evil. u have to put extra effort to hate.

no, men dont hate women, no, white people are not racist. u have to  take your energy and actively spend it toward endangering people, and there’s noway to justify that. nobody was born vile. hatred needs to be fed. and i can’t believe that men, white ppl, christians, middle aged ppl, are all represented by disgusting hateful specimens, and not misha collins.

nothing as good will ever come out of “will” and “intention” that can come out of laziness, boredome or revenge.


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4 years ago
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my minion hab made these flags for the goats.

I guess the revolution isnt happening after all. I wont lie, we (my goat wife & i) were looking forward to this. Especially her. I dont much care for technicalities. To me, we are as married as 2 goats can be. But as fate would have it, same sex marriage isnt yet legal in my country. Neither is adoption by same sex couples. But with the anger of the people, she thought #theysilencedyou could snowball into a real movement. That we might be able to wed one day, as other goats do.

You see, we become complicit in our anger. Caught up in the mundane intricacies of life, she in her job & I in mine. We forget how much has been taken from us. How much is being kept from us still. Our anger has to take a backseat for us 2 live our lives as normal goats.

But when something happens, no matter how small, to remind us of what we're missing, the anger wakes up again, like it did because of CW's censorship & queerbaiting. And in that anger is a spark that goats like me & my wife will cling to. Maybe the spark will light a fire, we think. Maybe this is the day it'll all burn down. Maybe now things will change. Maybe this time we'll be set free.

But it dies down. Like this is dying down. You'll forget your anger & we'll forget ours. & I'm the one that'll have 2 ask my wife to put her molotov cocktails away (she makes them with such dexterity). I was hoping to never have to do that again. For once, I wanted to see her set fire to the streets. She loves burning things. Carries a lighter in her pocket & smiles at the flames. & you should see her when she smiles, people. You should see her when she smiles.

But I'll do it a million times more (& I know she will, too) if it means we get to feel that hope again.

We don't regret the hope. Thank you for the hope.


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4 years ago
Ryujin
Ryujin
Ryujin

Ryujin

because i followed this course instead of my university

i managed a good job. hehe.


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3 years ago
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Where all the buses are loaded and the streets groan

reconciliations with anatomy and defects carried under invisible serum-paper (2021), Jim Lee // neil banging out the tunes (2006)

anyway ive had right enough of prince fuckingham palace going pumpkin here’s an absurdist pretentious edit of the unseen reality of neil’s life behind the jazz & the glitter. what makes a man bang out the tunes? pain

Happy neil banging out the tunes day.

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