Honestly, I Can See The Vision. I Can See It Far Too Well.

Canon.

my interpretation of dune's attitude towards the dod is that he was so bummed over his boyfriend leaving him that he forgot to not be violent towards children

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Huh.

That same reason is why he's my favorite character. Interesting how different our perspectives are /pos

I 100% read too much into that prologue specifically, but in my opinion he's such an intriguing character.

Still horrible tho.

"He didn't understand why they would want to be on their own, cut off from their protectors."

Oh gee, I don't know Webs. Maybe it could be because you let Kestrel beat them all the time? Or how her and Dune would consistently verbally abuse them? Or how they were never allowed to go outside their whole childhoods? Or wait! Maybe it could be because you all were going to kill Glory.

Here me out on this one..

But Dune.

I think it would be neat if a canonically aro/ace character is in Wings of Fire.

However, there’s a little piece of me that can’t help but worry that this might not happen, due to how much romantic relationships are involved within the series (or at least with the main protagonists), even if that worry of mine is irrational.

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I mean. . .

I wouldn't call him a terrible dad.

He's really just a *loser* , honestly. Imeanhedidattemptmurderthatonetimebutyouknowwhatever.

Nautilus. Another terrible dad.

I'm drinking iced coffee & giggiling rn. This thread is funny.

Unironically, Riptide is one of my favorite characters. He's just, so. . . Himself???? Idk. He's just a silly guy, and we NEED more of them.

“Riptide is so plain and/or boring!”

You know what? I genuinely don’t give a f***.

He’s a caring and nice character, that I like and even enjoy, and I think it’s quite neat that Tsunami had someone else she could rely on when she was having troubles within the SeaWing palace while living with freaking Queen Coral and - three moons - Whirlpool.

Plus, Riptide is NOT as plain as some people view him - or at least, he has the potential to be (seen as) a interesting character, but unfortunately wasn’t as explored and/or developed upon unlike some other characters within the series.

Riptide had a rather bad and traumatic past. Webs left him when he was 2 years old - about the current age of Anemone and MINK - in order to take Tsunami’s egg to the the Talons of Peace so he can raise her to be within the prophecy. His mother was indirectly KILLED by Coral by her purposefully putting his mom in the front lines of the war, due to her helping Webs take Tsunami’s egg. 

Due to this, Riptide probably became a literal ORPHAN as a very young dragonet, while living under a violent Queen who HATES his guts.

And due to Webs taking Tsunami’s egg, Coral unrightfully viewed Riptide to be an awful dragon, due to him being related to Webs. Because of this, Riptide is hated and discriminated by Queen Coral and her relatives, and he has a bad and low reputation within his Kingdom based off of crimes he DIDN’T EVEN COMMIT. With this reputation being something that he lived with through the MAJORITY of his life. Which includes him being given the lowest ranking job and duty within the SeaWing kingdom.

Heck, I wouldn’t be surprised that the reason why Riptide seems so ‘plain’ and/or ‘boring’ because he literally HAD to act that way around others - with him placing that part within himself and ingrained it within his personality and/or behavior - in order to NOT stand out and grab the attention of others who actively hate him, and would harm & even KILL him. Especially from how much he’s canonically hated by Coral.

Because if Riptide was noticed to be against Coral’s actions or beliefs, and/or was seen doing something that (majorly) upsets Coral, there’s a good chance - heck, a HIGH chance - that Coral would instantly brutally harm and/or kill him on the spot.

Riptide is one of the characters within the series that, despite the awful treatment and trauma he experienced throughout his life, is STILL a kind, caring, and/or empathetic dragon, who does his best to helps others that he cares about - including Tsunami.

He’s a dragon who cares about his tribe to the point he fought the SkyWings for them instead of fleeing away from the Summer Palace with Webs and Tsunami (and Tsunami’s friends), despite the awful treatment Riptide experienced for the majority of his life under his tribe’s royalty.

Who’s also a dragon who still wanted to form a connection with his father, who left him and hasn’t seen Riptide for a long time. One who is the only potential dragon who would love and/or care for Riptide for who he is.

A father that Riptide then learned later with TLH that Webs was a enabler of the abuse that Tsunami and her friends experienced from Kestrels and Dune, due to Webs not stopping them from being harmed until Queen Scarlet tried to imprison them in her arena.

Plus, when knowing about Riptide’s trauma and how much he experienced prejudice from others, his relationship and interactions with Tsunami honestly are more interesting than they seem to be.

How Riptide INSTANTLY rushed towards Tsunami in order to embrace her after she unintentionally flirted with him.

How Tsunami is probably the first dragon he’s known in a long while who respects, appreciates, and even enjoys his presence and existence.

That Riptide followed and watched over Tsunami while she was at the SeaWing Kingdom, probably due to him being worried about her being with Coral.

That Riptide selflessly helped and hanged out with Tsunami despite Coral potentially punishing and/or harming him for doing so.

How Riptide hid the fact that he was related to Webs, and that he’s a member of the Talons of Peace, probably in fear that Tsunami - the only dragon he has a positive bond with in TLH - would be angry at him, & dislike and/or hate him, possibly similarly how other dragons (including her relatives) hate him.

But despite this, he cared about being honest with Tsunami that he had the mental maturity and/or mental strength to tell Tsunami that he joined the Talons of Peace in order to know more about his father.

So yeah - Riptide is quite a nice character, who’s even pretty interesting, or at least is when you really think about him.

But he unfortunately isn’t viewed that way and/or isn’t even appreciated by multiple parts of the WoF fandom, due to him not having an prominent and/or strong personality compared to other love interests within the series.

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Nautilus is honestly the weirdest character in the series for me.

Like, he's moraly grey at best, seeming unfazed at killing people at the least, and I don't think enough people pay attention to him at all. Which is . . . Sad. I kind of hoped he would be a bigger villain, or at least more entertaining, than he was.

I mean, also, Webs confirmed himself that it was, at the very least, Nautilus' idea to lock the dragonets underground. (I wonder how much the guardians themselves hated it.)

Also, iirc, Cirrus literally said that he joined the ToP to get better at murder. So, that was a semi-regular occurance. Jeez.

Just remembering the fact that he could've died, been replaced by Ochre in arc 2, and my life would've been a lot happier with that outcome.

Something that confuses me is . . . I don't think anyone else really acknowledges how different (for lack of a better word) Webs is in the book 2 prologue. Like, ??? I'm not saying it's a bad thing but HUH?????

He's so much more of an asshole it's insane. Like I actually kinda wish that that was how he was most of the time. It would've been much more interesting.

But, yeah, book 2 prologue was crazy. Also the whole "Nautilus Trying To Brutally Murder Webs" thing, but, that's a whole different can of worms.

Wait, what did Tricky Talon do?

The favoritism in the fandom irritates me so badly. People will defend Winter with their life (not that I hate him btw) but then hate the fuck out of Qibli for the same reason they like Winter. Both of them were severely abused by their families, what’s so different about Winter??

Same thing for Darkstalker kinnies, they’ll defend a literal war criminal because he was abused but then hate on other characters that went through child abuse such as Anemone or Winter just because they are mean. Attempting to commit genocide and being racist is not mean to you??

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Ok, I think MOST important goes to Sunny. But Moon's about 2nd place I think.

I think it's about time I say this. Moon is the most important character in wings of fire. Not best or favorite, (though she is my favorite) those are two different things. What I mean is you can't substitute her in the plot. You can't swap her out with another character and get the same story. Moon's kindness is the one who sparks change in everyone, Turtle in his journey to be willing to help, Qibli in his journey of becoming secure about himself mentally, and Winter basically not being Racist to Nightwings. I could go on but you get the picture.

ME AND YOU BOTH MAN MOONS THE BEST

as always, moon takes are my favourites, and this one is such a happy positive one about her and i love it so much