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ghghhhhhh all the starkid puppets look so soft..... I wanna pet Snarl..... I wanna hold Crumb........ I wanna have a starkid puppet......

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Hey! So did Arasha decide to kill every lesbian watching this or

Ok- so I have been scrolling through posts for Cinderella’s Castle like a crazy person. Like you do.

Most of the posts are people squealing over their favorite bit currently, or just in general how much they loved it.

However-

Every one in 20 posts has someone expressing disappointment, and finding it lack luster.

It seems like you either are salivating over how good it was, or bored, and annoyed no one else was.

The main complaint seems to be “the characters are flat compared to other shows.”

As someone obsessed with fairytale fantasy, I just needed to come on here and say…

No duh.

Fairytales are not about the character as a person. They are about the person as a symbol/theme. Any detail about them suddenly humanizes them and makes them that much more relatable. But they are never, I repeat, NEVER, a fully realized person. Even in more modern fairytale adaptations, you don’t come for the character, you come for the story as a whole, and stay for the character’s “vibe” that allows you to create elaborate back ground details in fanfiction. The whole appeal of a fairytale is “less is more.”

Ella was raised as a Lady. She likes to paint. She sees herself as brave and tough, and wants to stop evil even if it kills her. She is clever and kind and has dreams. She is utterly practical in accomplishing her goals. She loves her family and friends deeply.

That is all we know.

We don’t know her favorite color, or if she’s a jazz girl, or even what she wanted out of life before this all happened, only that she misses her family.

That is the POINT. Ella, the cinder girl, the girl of ashes, is EVERY YOUNG GIRL WHO IS RAISED IN ABUSE. That is why the tale of Cinderella exists. So grandmothers and mothers could instill in children the deep knowledge that they deserve more, can survive, and do it without letting it break them.

Cinderella is someone you know because she is not pinned down with details. She just is.

Every character in a fairytale is that.

The stepmother is the abuser.

The Troll is a ruling class not from here.

The Princeton a fairytale is an escape and a stamp of approval of your morals. Not his own person. He is Deux Ex Machina. The fact that he HAS a personality here and it is awful is a subversion and holding up Ella’s personal determination over higher approval. She doesn’t need someone else’s approval to prove she is doing the right thing- she knows it, and holds it like the starlight in her hand. And that is GLORIOUS.

The Griswald sisters are a show of how even when you are utterly destroyed by evil, the fact that you were bright, and good, and true MEANS SOMETHING and still helps make the world better.

The frog knight is kindness repaid, and to not judge by appearances.

The mouse squire is that willingness to do something, even if you don’t have the skills, is important. Is worth something. (I saw someone talking about Crumb serving no perpose because he did not effect the plot. Of course he didn’t. The point of him is that he was WILLING, and that alone made her life better. And whimsy. Sometimes in genre, a thing is just for “vibes” and that’s what makes it genre. You cannot have fantasy without whimsy. He be whimsy.)

Even Tadius is a newer symbol of the “faithful servant.” Who does he serve? The Prince? The people? By following orders, or by using his wits?

And the Fairy Godmother. There is so much happening there, I could do a whole TedTalk. But basically, the fairy godmother is Help. It is offered help. She offers it because Cinderella was kind and had an anger in her screaming for justice. The fairygodmother in any story shows up to reward a virtue that the mc takes for granted. They don’t feel worth of the help, are even inclined to turn it down. The point of Cinderella is you TAKE THE HELP. Pride be damned, self worth be damned, you take it and you USE it to make things RIGHT.

The point is this:

A fairytale is about the themes. It is ABOUT the message. It is ABOUT how older themes get changed to fit modern understanding and turn into new themes.

What they did with ash and fire and starlight was incredible. The fact that they brought Fairy Godmother back to the Fairy who is a Mother Goddess was breathtaking because it made Cinderella’s quest for justice holy, not just empowered.

These characters are not flat. They are given thier depth by their role and themes rather than by the plot or personal details.

If you were bored by this, you don’t like fairytales. You may enjoy some of the trappings, but would like it better in a fantasy styled romance or drama, which is not the same thing.

This is not “connecting to humanity by connecting to a character not you.”

This is “connecting to something deeper and more than all of us put together through the use of symbology.”

Maybe that ain’t for you. Maybe you prefer to explore all this plane has to offer. That’s totally an acceptable preference. But don’t come in here and call it a bad show. It’s just not your genre.

(Also, since ya’ll seem to call out Hatchetfield stuff too- maybe you just don’t like genre centric stories 🤷🏻‍♀️)

I really don't get all the hate for Damien that I'm seeing, I honestly thought most people loved him? He's always been one of my favorites of the cast, especially since I personally related to him cuz Im also autistic. But yeah, I always thought he was a fan favorite. It's wild to me anybody would think the rest of the cast hates him or anythin like that, it's very clear to me that they don't??

No literally like I always thought Damien was a fan favorite too so I was so surprised to see so many people hating on him on twitter. Damien is also one of my favorite cast members just because he's funny and talented and provides something different to dynamics at smosh. A lot of people at smosh give more loud chaotic energy and playful bullying (which I love don't get me wrong like Angela is ALSO one of my favorite cast members), but Damien provides more nerdy energy and witty comments and supportiveness (the other smosh members are supportive too but ykwim lol) that just gives something unique to the videos sometimes. I always enjoy videos with him in them and I like how they sometimes give us a different vibe. Like I love the super chaotic gas leak energy videos, but if we got that every day, it would be too much yk? I like the variety in vibes. That's also why I like Arasha and Trevor because they provide different vibes than some of the more chaotic members like Angela and Chanse. That's a little side tangent but yeah! I love Damien! I thought we all loved Damien. Of all the cast members, I was surprised someone as nice as Damien would get SO much hate. I mean I don't think any of the main cast members rn deserve any hate but still lol

And it seems so obvious to me that all of the cast loves him too, so idk why people think the rest of the cast hates him or something. Like obviously Shayne, but also Angela, Tommy, Amanda, Ian, Keith, Arasha, Chanse, Courtney etc. all seem to really like him too. Like I know Shaymien is an obvious duo and I talk about Damangela a lot, but Damanda is also an iconic duo (I mean Team Rocket hello!!) and him and Tommy are a great duo too (never forget Hooey and Beef Beef lol). If smosh really wanted they probably could make him and Angela or Tommy or Amanda an iconic duo there, but they just aren't trying to push it like they are with Shaymanda or Changela or anything so people just *think* he doesn't have any "good duos" there. Hell, him and Arasha have had some good moments in the recent games videos they've been in, and then in that Party Animals videos, him and Chanse had so many good moments that there were a couple people here shipping them for a few days too lmaoo. Also those couple "Damien and Ian trying and ranking every item at a fast food place" videos from like 5 years ago made me realize how good of a duo they are too.

All that to say that Damien clearly gets along well with a lot of cast members and they all really like him. For some reason, some people just think that if dynamics aren't shoved in your face all the time and extremely obvious, then they don't exist and he's secretly hated by everyone. Idk I just think he's neat and I feel like other people also think he's neat

If Nick came on stage for that one scene and then immediately left I would absolutely lose my mind omg

“Will should be Pete” “Joey could still be Pete” “Max Jagerman hot chocolate boy”

You fools, it’s finally time

I'm so glad Arasha had to use a bologna to slap Angela because we all know what happened the last time...

Never forget.

the pope died to give us will branner performing show stopping number

3 HOURS?? I forgot dread was that long omg 😭 3 hours of them looking like this? I'm gonna pass out fr

THIS LINEUP IS INSANE HOLY SHIT

Why did Mariah saying "the apotheosis is upon us" make me tear up?? omg 😭😭