I wasn't even aware they were trying to make it seem like Marinette struggles to make friends.
Like, she's so popular and loved that struggling to make friends is the one problem Marinette doesn't have.
Sure, they tell us she had this problem in "Origins" but it's not like they actually show Marinette struggling to make friends. People just love Marinette instantly.
She's a bit quirky, and nerdy, and prone to misunderstandings, but none of those have made it hard for Marinette to make friends.
So saying she struggles with that is just disingenuous.
As someone who ACTUALLY struggled to make friends in HS its insulting when they say Marinette does so.
People who "struggle to make friends" dont get elected class president
People who "struggle to make friends" dont have pajama parties with their girlfriends ocasionally
People who "struggle to make friends" arent friends with famous comedians and international rockstars
People who "struggle to make friends" dont date supermodels. Or at all.
Being "quirky" or "nerdy" or "prone to misunderstandings " is not the same thing of being a weird outcast, and for sure doesnt make you unpopular.
Would you say Kim was better in the last season? How much did she grew as a person?
Hmm...tough question. My answer may not be the most popular, but...
On the one hand, Kim's competitiveness seems to have died down, so I'll give her that.
On the other hand, I mentioned that it was a bit unfair of Kim to keep expecting Ron to pay for nice dates to expensive restaurants without coupons and not offer to pay for them herself, or how annoying it is that she not only had the job handed to her, but Monique literally begged her to take it. ("The Big Job")
And, while I can somewhat understand her jealousy of Yori, she shouldn't have let that interfere with a mission. Nor was she sympathetic towards Ron about being forced out of his room for a baby sister he didn't even know he was getting. ("Big Bother")
It wasn't cool of her to be hassling Monique to break an NDA when Kim herself likely already knew what the consequences would be for Monique if she did, nor was it cool to have Wade look over the contract for loopholes. ("Fashion Victim")
And she's still rude and judgmental about Larry's interests, which happen to be interests that Kim knows Ron shares. ("Larry's Birthday")
So, while Kim's competitiveness seems to have died down, her need to control everything is still an issue, and she's still unnecessarily judgmental about other peoples' harmless interests.
So I guess Kim improved a bit, but still has some issues to work on that aren't fully addressed.
Sorry if that's not the answer you were looking for.
It has come to my attention that a lot of people are probably under the impression that I hate Kim since I criticize her behavior a lot.
This is not true.
I do believe that Kim is selfish and very flawed.
And I'm frustrated that her flaws are often overlooked or ignored or, in the rare instances where her harmful actions are actually acknowledged, downplayed, easily forgiven, and not changed.
But this is not because I hate Kim.
This is because I love Kim, or at least I used to, and wish she had gotten better character development.
Kim is the main character. Heck, Kim is the titular character. Kim is the focus of the show.
But Ron is the relatable character. Ron is the one who gets the most development. Ron got so much development that, in the fourth season, they actually had him take a back seat on some missions to a literal baby because they made Ron too good to keep being Kim's sidekick.
(Not sure if that was their thought process or intention, but it happened.)
Overall, Kim remains a static character. What little character development she gets does not compare to Ron. At all.
Now, obviously I love Ron, too.
But Kim also should have gotten character development. And every time the creators had a chance for it, they decided against it.
I would honestly love Kim a lot more if they had given her the same level of character development they gave Ron.
I mean, the fans deserve that, at least.
Starting off with a quick definition: tonal dissonance is when there is a sudden, jarring shift in the overall tone of the show, movie, book, etc.
And it's the biggest reason I can't stand Rainbow World.
Every episode up to that point was about the adventures of teenagers at an elite arts high school that was also a boarding school.
And that was the concept that originally appealed to people.
And then, we have Rainbow World.
Now the show is about the whacky adventures of high schoolers in a magical world where they have cute pets made of crystal and magical missions to help people.
Not a terrible concept, but after four seasons of the show going one way, I'm not interested in suddenly changing the overall tone and premise of the series.
Rainbow World is such a different idea, it would've been better off as a different series.
And, honestly, the way it was introduced doesn't help either.
But that's for a different post.
The episode, not the character.
Well, I do like that it dealt with disability. And Kim's behavior is actually reminiscent of how many people in the real world treat someone with an obvious disability.
I love that Ron treated Felix like a normal person from the beginning.
And I like that Felix's mom was patient with Kim being uncomfortable with Felix's chair.
(Because Kim's not discriminatory, she has just never been near someone with a physical disability before and has no idea what's considered acceptable behavior.)
However, I do have one complaint:
For all the times Ron acts like Felix is a normal person and even tells Kim to treat him like a normal person, Felix doesn't.
At no point is Felix anything other than...polite.
Sure, Kim's not trying to be mean, but micro aggressions are typically done by people who don't have harmful intentions.
(Though Felix isn't aware of most of them, so I will give some leeway here.)
We have Ron advocating for Kim to treat Felix like a normal person, but we never have Felix advocating for that himself.
(He's also not really advocating, he's just treating Felix like a normal person and telling Kim she's too hung up on the chair.)
Felix is never his own advocate when it comes to how he's treated.
And having a disabled person in a show is great, but it's even better when they advocate for themselves.
Again, I know that Kim's not trying to be mean, but she is treating Felix differently because of his disability. And Felix should be the one calling her out on it, not Ron.
(Though he's new, so it's possible he thinks she treats everyone that way, though it's really unlikely.)
I know it's not intended to be offensive, and I wouldn't say I'm offended, but I do think disabled characters should be allowed to advocate for themselves.
Still, I do like this episode, and I wish we had gotten to see more of Felix in the series.
Bonus: A lot of people in wheelchairs are able to stand or walk without it for a bit. Does anyone think Felix is able to do that?
I think this is all a consequence of the show never allowing Kim to be flawed.
There’s a very niche type of story, with very specific plot that I love within the fandom that (a very, very specific type of KimRon story) that fixes a lot of my issues with the way Kim and some aspects of Kim and Ron were portrayed.
But this ask is getting far too long, I’ll talk about it another time.
We have very different perspectives, but I would love to talk more about the show with you , if you want , you could DM me if you ever up to talking more about the show, you have some interesting takes. 5_5
Yeah, Kim was meant to be perfect from the beginning, so her flaws aren't acknowledged or corrected.
Frankly, after 20 years, it doesn't work for me anymore.
To me, Kim is unrelatable because she succeeds at most things way too easily. And she's unlikeable because she's extremely controlling, competitive, rude, judgmental, and condescending, and refuses to acknowledge it might be a bad thing, even when it hurts people she cares about.
I'd be interested in hearing about this type of story, maybe you could send me a link some time.
And I would love to talk Kim Possible with you, but I can't DM you - you sent all these anonymously, so I have no idea who you are!
In a series of completely unrelated coincidences, the same family moves into a haunted house, attracts the attention of a local poltergeist, purchases an evil ventriloquist dummy, activates a witch’s curse, and adopts the newborn antichrist, all in the same week.
So, in some fanfiction, I've seen Josh portrayed as, well...I wouldn't say mean, but not as nice as canon. This is usually to highlight how Ron is better for Kim. Obviously, I'm going to have issues with this.
Firstly, Josh is kind and patient. When Kim is acting weird on their date, he doesn't seem bothered by it. Maybe concerned, but he never once loses his cool.
Secondly, he's accepting. Though Kim's interest in putting marshmallows on hotdogs is weird, he doesn't give her a hard time about it. And he doesn't seem judgmental towards Ron for still trick-or-treating in "October 31st". (Actually, he seemed to enjoy that.)
Lastly, he's charitable. Near the end of "Blush" we learn that Josh worked with some kids to clean up a bunch of graffiti and paint a mural in place.
Josh is a kind, caring, patient, and tolerant guy who volunteers to work with kids and paints murals after cleaning up graffiti. He's also a musician and likes hanging out with Ron too. ("October 31st")
So, if people want to get Josh out of the way to have Kim and Ron end up together earlier, portraying Josh as a horrible person doesn't have to be an option.
Thoughts on Bonnie?
I have been waiting for this ask.
I'm probably going to get hated for it...
I don't think Bonnie's as bad as we're supposed to believe she is.
Sure, Bonnie's catty, mean, rude, petty, shallow, selfish, and more.
But that seems to be targeted 90% to Kim, 5% to Ron, and 5% to everyone else.
In other words, Bonnie doesn't seem overly mean to anyone but Kim.
Her fellow cheerleaders are seen hanging out with her instead of Kim quite often. And if someone as nice as Tara or pragmatic as Crystal prefers hanging out with Bonnie over Kim, there's probably a good reason for it.
And it might be the fact that, had it not been for Kim, Bonnie would've never stooped to sabotage in the first place. ("Return to Wannaweep")
Or it could be the fact that Bonnie can actually keep her commitment to the squad, and was willing to put in a lot more work to help the squad. ("Number One")
(I still don't think she willingly gave up the Captain position, especially not to Kim.)
Or that she would've been better able to be Chair of the Dance Committee, since she could fulfill her obligations and get Smash Mouth to perform, but Kim didn't care if Bonnie was better, Kim's own pride and ego, and rivalry with Bonnie, were more important than actually getting the job done. ("Queen Bebe")
Even Ron couldn't see a problem with Bonnie being the Chair of the committee.
(And I still have no idea what "throne" Kim was referring to.)
I wouldn't blame other people for deciding Kim is too competitive to hang out with regularly. She doesn't seem to put a lot of value in enjoying things, just doing them, and doing them the right way (her way).
And from what we've seen of Bonnie's romantic relationships, she dates guys who are genuinely nice and doesn't seem to be very mean to them either. She says Brick is "cute" when he can't think, instead of just calling him stupid or dumb. And the date we've seen her on was to a horror movie, so either Bonnie likes horror movies, she let Brick pick the movie, or some combination of both.
(I don't blame her for dumping soda in Kim's lap, Kim was talking throughout the movie, and being rude and condescending about it to boot.)
And from what I remember of high school, no one who's as mean as Bonnie supposedly is would actually have that many friends. They wouldn't even really have a lot of followers.
And Bonnie didn't just win the vote for Captain unanimously, she won it with everyone other than Kim being enthusiastic about her being Captain.
I think Bonnie's biggest issue with Kim is that Kim quite literally has things handed to her, doesn't have to work for much, and people are too enamored by the hero to notice the person. And Kim treats her best friend horribly which, shockingly, is not something we actually see Bonnie doing.
I think Bonnie's biggest issue with Ron is that Ron is so slavish towards Kim, and Bonnie sees it as pathetic and loser behavior. When Ron distances himself from Kim, she not only has no problems hanging out with him, but dates him, or tries to, and is unequivocally supportive of him. Which is...interesting, as it implies her issue isn't with Ron himself, but with how Ron acts around Kim.
But more to the point: the "mean girl" of the show treats people better than our hero does, and that says a lot about both of them.
Speaking of not appearing again it’s weird that for all the focus put on Adrenna Lynn being Kim’s foil, she only had one episode dedicated to her and then nothing for the rest of the series until the finale episode when she had her seconds long cameo. But I guess that’s how popular Shego was. They didn’t know what else to do with this character and Shego being Kim’s foil instead just made more sense.
Yeah, Adrena Lynn was featured in promotional artwork, so they had bigger plans for her.
Unfortunately, her debut episode revealed that she didn't actually have any skills.
And it's kind of hard to make a villain that can't actually do anything.
I'm sure the fans could come up with a few plots that include her, but I guess the creators couldn't.
I don't blame them, I'm just disappointed we didn't get more.