This post was made before the full leaks, or well before the main leaker mentioned anything about Edgeshot anyway. I think he did but like half day later.
Considering Edgeshot go back to service even being a little thread with hands I personaly doubt even this experience is enough to stop him. He's not afraid of anything lol.
On that note It's reallt satisfying know that he and Bakugou became so close after their experience together.
I do wonder what's he doing overseas, as he must have spend a very good time in traveling if he dissapeared from the hero charts.
Good luck with your story.
The fact Shindo made top 20 in the hero charts 8 years later and not a lot of the Class A guys including Uraraka make me proud of my boy.
Shindo really deserved it, so good for him.
But the new top 20 makes me wonder if Edgeshot quit being a hero as he's nowhere to be seen.
Seems to extreme that he being 4th descended so far. I wonder if his health was really so compromised that he wasn't able to fully recover.
I will miss you my dear ninja hero.
Like father...
Like son...
I start thinking the Shigaraki expressions are hardcoded or something.
(Dad For One never beats the allegations 🌩)
First of all, here's the fanfic in case you want to give it a read:
I really love that idea of AFO watching at Muzan and his demon moons, and he being petty as fuck like always inmediately would want to have that as well.
Technically he have nomus but they lack that rule of cool factor of the demon moons, so of course would try to response with super soldiers.
Ironically AFO already have soldiers with numeric order, that being Nine, Six, (Ten)ko and the rest of the unknown prototypes. He probably would try to use that for emulate the demon moons, but will fail epically because like in canon all AFO servants always reveal against him because unlike Muzan his security methods suck.
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Zenitsu fights are visually cool despite every one of them is the exact same. I mean is kinda his whole thing that he doesn't know any other form of thunder breathing, but since he doesn't get to many fights it doesn't get old.
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The demon that shares VA with crusty boy is Rui, a great villain btw.
And yeah in my AU crusty would just want mindless destruction. Nobody will feel bad for him, because fuck him. He's just an obstacle in this story.
Okay... maybe he will have sobe story about his human life as Tenko Shimura and he wanted being a demon slayer and save people like Nana, who was a hashira in the past and died in combat.
But a demon attacks and kills the Shimura family and turns him into a demon as well.
Sad and all, but nobody will know the story, he still gets humilliated and killed and goes to hell while his family is in heaven (evil laughs).
What do you think about another crossover AU for SeltzerBunny? This time with Demon Slayer.
It's kinda easy to adapt the respective canon quirks of our dear couple into Breathing Styles.
Cider/Mizunami obviously would be a water breathing user, and for this AU I like to think he would be tsuguko of Sabito who survived this time.
While Midoriya is a wind breathing user (cause you know air force and float and green aesthetic... whatever) who was saved by Masachika (Yeah he's also alive at least for now) from the lower moon who killed his mother.
That lower moon would be no other than BK, who is a promising demon in ascension who is capable of generate explosions like his quirk in MHA.
And this would make Midoriya quest for revenge his principal motivation.
Still thinking about the details for this AU and who should be the other characters adapted into it, as MHA having such a big cast compared to DS force me to pick only the necessary lol.
@nyc3 hello
So while I did saw the first season of DS and do think it's well paced and better than MHA in every way -not a big achievement to behold. I didnt saw the other seasons, I got spoilers here and there. My point is how some of the names here are unknown to me.
That being said...I do like more aus for this ship.
Cinder is still a thief in this au or he seeks revenge?
How they meet and how is their dynamic?
(Almost finishing chapter 1 of my seltzer bunny fic)
Thanks spinji 🤍
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You forgot to add a very important reason of why Sukuna is more universally beloved by pretty much the entire JJK fandom, whereas in MHA there's no villain who really fits this criteria (at least no serious villains because you can't count Gentle in this lmao).
Anyway, this reason is simply that Sukuna narrative role is pretty much perfectly defined and almost never deviates from being an evil bastard without almost any redeeming feature. Unlike Shigaraki for example, who is more or less the 2nd more appreciated villain behind Dabi, and the narrative constantly goes back and forth between him being pure evil and a misundestood victim who need to be saved.
Sukuna as well most JJK villains are pretty straighfoward in terms of being villains without lack atributes that makes them complex characters, something that MHA certainly lacks as Horikoshi has a problem to give his villains a victim conplex while makes the comically evil at the same time.
And look I know both series have different narrative porpuses for their villains, but then again AFO is much more similar to JJK villains in most aspects. Yet like you said a big difference on why he's not as beloved as the rest of the villains on his own series is simply because Horikoshi constantly downplays him in favor of Shigaraki for example.
It surely doesn't help that AFO isn't conventionally attractive for most of the series while Shigaraki certainly is, despite some people can joke about his look the reality is that he's drawn as attractive and this is reflected on how readers react to him.
If AFO looked like this for most of the series I'm sure the opinions about him would be much more inclined to he positive:
Is a shame Horikoshi dropped the ball so hard with AFO.
I have the feeling that he regreted get rid of him back in Kamino and later struggled to justify his return and glory moments. At the same time he can't fully commit to make AFO way to perfect because HK is still obsessed with Shigaraki for some reason.
There's no room for both villains obviously, and the one that should've stayed is AFO.
If Horikoshi made AFO the definitive villain from the very beginning without switch between him and Shigaraki every 5 minutes, and if AFO was always attractive and with more "aura" moments he would be equally loved as Sukuna?
Well who knows really, but in my opinion all these factors surely could have affected a lot of the public perception.
Same applies to other villains like Overhaul, who are more loved than AFO despite being equally evil as him but sadly Kai didn't last too much either so he's not as popular as Shigaraki who gets constant attention.
Hello, do you mind if I ask your opinion on this :
What do you think that made a villain/antagonist characters are loved by many people? Like, why do you think Sukuna (JJK) is more loved by fans compared to AFO or even Shigaraki (BNHA)?
Also, why do you think Bakugou (BNHA) & Gojo (JJK) are so well loved by the fans of both series?
And, I've read somewhere that "......if Gojo and Bakugou's characters were female (with the same personality) then they will be hated by many..." Do you agree?
P.s
I know you're anti Bakugou, sorry if it's made you uncomfortable to talk about character you dislike, I just love to read your writings.
There are many reasons as to why villains/antagonists are loved by many people, but if I had to sum it up I think that :
Compared to the protagonists, because the antagonists are already demonised and usually called out by the narrative, people tend to find the little redeeming qualities that antagonists have and exemplify it by a 1000 X almost babying the villains while doing the exact opposite to the heroes because the narrative treats the heroes the opposite.
However, when talking about why some antagonists like sukuna are liked a lot more than other antagonists such as AFO, there are a variety of such as :
Characteristics they may have. Sukuna by the jjk fandom is interpreted as someone who is actually intimidating, can be a bit funny but ultimately gets down to business and is seen as an actual threat unlike AFO who just becomes and is written terribly that he doesn't particularly add any tension or emotion into the story
Their goals. Sukuna wants power. He wants to be on top, and he is described as a force of nature that can't be controlled. Yes, in some certain circumstances, he and AFO are similar, but sukuna is able to convey his goals, and the overall development of them from beginning to end is just better than AFO especially with how connected he ends up being g to the jujitsu world.
Their narrative treatment. The way the narrative treats both AFO and sukuna is complete different and it's the way the narrative treats sukuna that makes sukuna more enjoyable and a better character as he for example, is given many opportunities to show case his destructive and malicious behaviour compared to AFO. In the series, AFO is a lot more like a parasite harming many factors of the writing, but this is quite the opposite to sukuna.
Essentially, I think this is the best way to explain the differences in sukuna and AFO and why sukuna is a lot more enjoyable to people and overall better written.
However, I would also like to add that, in general, people like villains a lot more if the said villains are attractive, have a sense of charisma + charm to them, and if the villain ends up being powerful. These criteria end up being checked by sukuna, and AFO kinda fails to meet them, taking in the general fandoms opinion.
As to why characters like bakugo and Gojo are really popular, I think the reasons for that are:
Attractiveness. People find these characters really attractive, and if you have ever been in a fandom, then you know the lengths people will go to, to protect a character who is good-looking. People will overlook the characters' flaws and even valid criticism just because a character is hot. (Like beauty privilege for characters is so insane that you have people trying to defend/justify mei mei because she is pretty)
They're cool/they're badass. Ultimately, characters like bakugo and gojo are really cool. You see, a lot of people cheer them on because they think that this very powerful character is strong and they're someone who they kinda aspire to be as in that person is incredibly influential, they're strong, they're badass etc.
People think they're well written. Characters being well written is a subjective opinion personally I think gojo is a well written character but I don't think bakugo is a well written character. Ultimately, if a character is incredibly dynamic within the series they tend to change and get more moments that makes the audience connect with them.
Now with the statement below I kinda have mixed opinions on it.
Yes, misoginor in fandoms is a big problem that affects the interpretation of characters, and yes, it's been established that people tend to treat female characters a lot more harshly than male characters. Due to this, we got the whole you can't handle complex female characters trend. However, as time passes, I do like to believe that misoginor and racism in fandoms are problems that are becoming more recognised and that more and more people are starting to actually understand characters without being racist or misogynistic.
However, I understand that this is a very idealistic and optimistic view so I will say that if bakugo and gojo were to be female characters with the same personality you would probably have SOME people hate them due to misoginor.
But alas, I think that they wouldn't be as hated and would still be popular. I mean, in MHA, we literally have miriko, who is liked by many fans, and she, in my opinion, is very similar to bakugo.
(Gojo, on the other hand, might be a bit more complicated case)
Before ending this, I wanna say that there seems to be certain character flaws that people like or hate more if a character has them.
For example, there are certain character traits that make people hate characters no matter if they're protagonists or antagonsit or in between. These characteristics are :
Naivety
Ignorance
Hypocrisy
"Crybaby" characters
Cowards
I will say that these characteristics are things that people really hate in a character, and the fandom tends to hate characters that portray these characteristics at first. However, as you can see from the characters I have listed below, the fandom does slowly warm up to them after a while.
Essentially, I can understand why people may hate characters with these traits, especially when the world they're in is built to jarringly contrast the characteristics they have, making them seem annoying to the viewers. However, they are needed to add a huge layer of complexity to the series a lot of the time.
Yoichi is trying to keep his brother warm.
I only lament Nagant didn't have a final exchange with Chisaki after all their time together ane dynamic. Don't really ship them that much, but their relationship can be interesting.
I don't think Cider is a guy who gives much attention to what happens in social media tbh, that goes for him or other villains.
That being said I would find funny if he's supper popular on the MHA equivalent to TikTok, as I said before irl he got a lot of attention from that platform. I've seen a lot of clips and edits of him, especially after his cameo post war.
His line "I'm a man who lives for the thrill" lives in my mind now. Rent free. He is a bold but smart man.
I was wondering...what it he goes to steal smth in UA? Not sure on what he could steal but hey why not? That would be a huge blow to their egos.
Plot twist. Izumi beats him first and she is the one to invade UA and stole SMTH - it was crucial for her plans- BK tried to downplayed so hard but hates how everyone is impressed.
No idea of what he would steal, but if he and Izu converge the same day with the same plan of steal some shit and they're like "wtf are you doing here?".
They almost start fighting but then Bakugou appears and tries to capture them screaming "Die!" as usual, but then Izu and Cider join forces and humilliate BK in public in the U.A grounds. A hard hit for his ego.
That would be also a moment for fall into a spiral of love and horniness for our thiefs.
This man is going to be the death of me one of these days, I swear
So one of my autistic special interests is finding headcanon singing voices for my favorite characters. One night I was talking with my friend @thatvixenchick about a voice for Chisaki, and ended on Andy's voice! So, I absolutely had to draw Chisaki in the same pose as one of Andy's promo shots for The Shadow Side!!
References: Pose and outfit: Andy Biersack Phoenix tattoo: Baradim Tattoo Dragon tattoo: joe_scartletrose on instagram
Horikoshi bring him back after the first war just to put him in jail again after a few panels.
But hey at least we got him unmasked for a moment, as he's hot af.
You can't imagine how much I love the Cider House leader guy...
A minor villain has no right to look so cool, badass and handsome like he does.
Also he probably got the best water quirk of the series.
Also he got so much sassy energy on top of having such insane drip.
Being one of his like 3 fans isn't easy, but still love him.
I didn't think Katsuma sound a bit similar to Katsuki, at least in romaji because their kanji names are nothing alike. But isn't a problem for me because Katsuma is a pretty name, and in my story she has a personal reason to keep that name even after transition.
And yes, she has her canon cell activation quirk which can be used for heal, BUT Katsuma in this story also had a quirk awakening that developed a "cell degradation" side which allows her to use her quirk for the opposite effect, so instead of heal cells she can also kill them or create necrosis.
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I do like your idea of Muscular not telling anyone that he lose to Izumi, I guess he also had a bit of fragile ego there but it's funny how even in canon Goto new obssesion with Midoriya after being defeated seems less like "I want my revenge by killing you" and more like "I never had so much fun in my life, please Midoriya let's fight forever!"
I honestly wish Horikoshi played a bit more with Muscular than just get rid of him inmediately after bring him back. His dynamic with Midoriya is strangely fun and flow very well, and it's fun to think Goto actually adores Izuku/Izumi as the person he can always give him and exciting fight, rather than just want to kill him/her like Shigaraki wants.
I hope your idea of this little society between Izumi and Chisaki leads to them facing Re-Destro together, as I always needed that sweet ideological battle of him and Overhaul.
I'm not even the biggest fan of Dabi in terms of looks, but always found very weird how the anime constantly makes him look way more defined and with bigger muscles than he has in the manga.
Isn't a bit contradictory for his character to look super ripped? Horikoshi clearly drawn Dabi in that specific way because the story makes emphasis on his body being more frail due having a weak constitution, also contrasting him to the rest of mens in the family who got the big and strong constitution of Enji, Natsuo especially. The anime just lose all the meaning behind that.
And this is more of a personal preference but I find Dabi's body in the manga to look much more attractive and less generic than in the anime. Skinny guys can look attractive as well.
Hi @nyc3
Thanks for the ask bc it's so fitting as I was thinking about how the fandom sees dabi and mr. Possum.
Let me start with this. Have you seen how in the Tumblr the tags of dabi x reader and shig x reader there a HUGE contrast in quality? Shig is depicted as a creepy and weirdo incel while Dabi IS "I'LL STEAL YOUR WIFE😏"
now on a controversial take. I do like the idea of dabi losing his scars. Why? Would increase his quality of life...I find odd how everyone in LoV accepts Dr. Evil's word and never try to take a second opinion. Also, without the scars Dabi would look way more like Endy making his claim be more powerful.
(not a fan of erasing Shig's scars nor the "crusty" jokes. Shig is handsome with his scars)
Now onto your ask: I think Bones just like to make characters hot in a conventional way, JJK men got to be hotter than the manga. But I do notice how bones lacks in translate the manga to anime. Some of the scenes of the manga were done so dirty.
Dabi became hotter aka buffer bc of this. Btw, many dabi x reader like to make the reader have a healing quirk (it should be a trope by now) just so it can heal dabi...which no one account that dabi IS self destructive, a healing quirk is nice but he would do again...unless he changes his mindset (I'm trying to explore this in my fic called besties)
Ask yourself: did shig NEEDED to be buffaraki? Was afo the quirk really need you to be buff?
(was necessary for Izu to gain muscles? Maybe, maybe not)
So to answer: Dabi is attractive in any shape. His writing trumps over shig any day even if shig IS more attractive than Dabi.
Yep, my dream interaction is Overhaul and Nine meeting each other and having an ideological war because both are opposite poles on that sense.
But at the same time they will have sort of a rivalry rather than being straight up enemies. They will find a common terrain and get some exchanges, because while different they can also be similar in some traits and find things they like from the other.
My reason for calling Overhaul the best Villain in the main series is because he's way more competent, driven and has a real threatening presence to him, compared to the other Villain Leaders.
AFO (Post Kamino) & Shigaraki aren't in his League.
They don't give off that feeling of dread. Shigaraki got AFO quirk to try and make him seem more imposing, but it wasn't enough since having a strong power isn't the only thing Overhaul had going for him.
AFO was decent until after his interrogation with All Might, where he became too comically evil for the sake of it (imo)
Re-Destro wasn't there for long but he did a ok job. The MLA did sell me as a competent group, considering the amount of money and connections they had. As well as their goal of free quirk use.
The only thing that was off was there belief of quirk supremacy, since the organisation's strength came from wealth and connections.
But other than that they were ok, it's too bad they were shoved to the side during the War.
Sorry for rambling
But yeah, that's my reason for Overhaul being the best Villain in MHA
Your reasoning for think that is almost the same as mine.
But also Overhaul ideals and objectives felt different and way more grounded in the sense it doesn't feel like he blames society for everything and his only answer is mindless destruction.
He actually persue change but in way that almost makes sense, and his mindset offers a very interesting perspective about quirks that this series always avoid to exploit. Like is funny how Horikoshi puts constant references to the doomsday theory being something very real, yet no one in verse tries to do something about it and any character who doesn't like quiks is treated as a crazy monster to invalidate their opinions.
Chisaki is also different to other villains in the sense that despite his life is pretty tragic he never gets victimized by the author, something I can appreciate because honestly the most annoying part about the LOV for example is how the story constantly pats them in the back and tries to pretend their are just victims when they passed that point long ago.
Kai on the other hand gets a treatment so harsh that makes me wonder if Horikoshi actually hates him with passion, because holy hell since his defeat Horikoshi really doesn't hold back on try to put him as miserable as possible and with no chance of improve his situation even a bit. It felt like a massive double standard when you see how much the LOV gets glazed.
Well... this kinda became a rant on my part, but I need to express it as Overhaul really deserved a way better treatment because in terms of villains he was the peak and MHA never had something similar again.