Yep, My Dream Interaction Is Overhaul And Nine Meeting Each Other And Having An Ideological War Because

Powerful and aesthetically pleasing couple.

Also Midoriya surely loves to put his hand around Giulio waist.

Our Deku is such a naughty boy.

He's having such a trip with each movie.

There's no other quirks which explicit purpose is heal like R.G but I guess we can count quirks with a secondary use for heal.

Eri and Chisaki are the most obvious examples of having perfect quirks for healing if used in the proper way, despite Rewind and Overhaul can be used for much more.

In the 2nd movie we have Katsuma and his dad, they both have a Cell Activation quirk which is often mistaken as a healing quirk (because Nine wants it to fix his contition) but as Katsuma sister says they weren't sure if his quirk could be used for heal, and the dad of the kids isn't even a doctor.

That being said Cell Activation can indeed be used for heal wounds and such, but its primary effect is stabilize cells and even can unleash the potential inside them which serves as a big power boost, reason why Nine wanted it so much.

Now based on what we seen in the series about medicine, is safe to assume the reason of why even people with healing quirks aren't prominent doctors is because technology makes such quirks less useful.

I mean think about this for a moment, even if we don't count Garaki's crazy ass tech to bring people back from death and crete bioweapons on AM level, the general medical tech in MHA is ridiculously good. They can heal almost everything in short time and get people back in action in less than a month as we seen after the first war.

Recovery Girl probably became a well know doctor and was relevant back in the day because when she was young medical tech wasn't good enough, but in the current time of the series it evolved enough to the point a person like Katsuma dad despite having an excellent quirk for healing didn't bother on persue a medical career.

I see your rank about water based quirks, and it's quite interesting because I've commented the same thing on reddit before and people seem to agree on the fact water quirks have little representation of MHA.

Not only because they are portrayed as way weaker that any other elemental quirk, but usually pure water quirks (not ice ones) only belong to minor and diposable character.

You have:

-Manual "the normal hero" which is sort of a joke character which most prominent moment was keep Aizawa and Monoma's eyes hydratated.

-The firefighter hero from the first episode which I don't think appears ever again and he's only there to extinsguish fire.

-Kota parents are dead imao, and Kota himself is just a child so his quirk doesn't really come into play.

-There was an unnamed villain in the USJ attack who controls water but he's fooder.

While other elemental quirks have a lot of characters which are depicted as really overpower by MHA standards. For example:

-Fire has Endeavor, Dabi and Bakugou to an extent. Self explanatory in this case.

-Air has Inasa, who was probably the most powerful student of his generation before any quirk awakening bs from Class A. Inasa even was stopping Sad Man Parade by himself at one point.

-Earth has Cementoss who was described as op in urban enviorenments, Shindo who is way more powerful than people give him credit for, and if we count metal here Wolfram from the first movie was a really powerful fighter.

So yeah, the difference between water with the rest of the elements is kinda big. Even ice users aren't treated as particulary powerful in the story.

Geten needed to train his whole life without go to school and have a quirk awakening but had problems with a Dabi who was holding back, and he lose against Cementoss for some reason despite there wasn't concrete during their battle.

Shoto is a special case, because notice how the story always treats his fire side as the real powerhouse and not his ice. I mean even Endeavor thinks on the ice quirk as just a way to baypass the overheat rather than a power Shoto can make shine on it's own, isn't that ironic? The ice in Shoto is just a patch for the weakness of his strong side, not this perfect balance between elements.

Perhaps the only truly badass water quirk user we have (despite he's treated as fooder as well) is the nameless leader of the Cider House gang.

Seriously I love this guy for some reason. His design and quirk are awesome, and he's such a fun minor villain.

Wish we had more content of him and his real name, despite calling him Cider is funny.

Hi @nyc3

So before I answer your ask...let me ask you this: where is the others' healing quirks? Is R.G the only one who has this quirk? Bc if so that raises some questions...so are all the doctors quirkless? I´m especualting here as Hori has no desire to do worldbuilding but if we take this as true...then Izu could have been a doctor.

"Quirkless doctors face discrimination" its something I can see someone saying IF the quirkless are the doctors and this is so supremely dumb. I don't think quirkless discrimination IS a thing in the text, what we have is IZU BEING ABUSED.

Now as for the question...yeah, people in MHA prefer quirks that are stronger, fire IS strong...but then again, on the same wavelength, they don´t care to know more about quirks (Izu is seen as the odd ball for analyzing quirks when this should be the obvious, everyone should have a quirk analyst)

Endy wanted a child from a woman whose quirk is ice. Still, he looks down on water type quirks...while yes, he did that to make sure his kid has a cool off system in him for the fire (HIS PLAN IS SO DUMB HOLY SHIT). I ask, ignoring the implications, if he wants to do a quirk marriage and thinks FIRE is the best, why not marry someone who already has a quirk?

Water is seen as weak and I don´t get why. Maybe Hori has some bias on the power scale.

Wind is something Inasa has but... let's be real, Inasa is an ass in canon. He is an Endy´s fanboy and hates Shoto bc Endy didn´t smile at Inasa...entitled fan much? (I HATE HOW PEOPLE MAKE IZU BE THE CREEPY FAN WHEN WE DO HAVE CANON CREEPY FANS)

Hori doesn't seem to care to make powers interesting...nor consistent.

Look at BK, how many quirk awakenings this asshole had?

To make this short, I believe is not about the power, is how you use...and no one in mha wants to think outside the box.

(on that note, why Toga is the only one who has a transformative quirk?)

You can't take sexist Dabi away from me!

But seriously I love the idea for multiple reasons, one of them being that is a direct response to the whole "lov are sjw" that lov fans love to circlejerk just to make them look more noble compared to the "problematic" characters like Endeavor or Overhaul especially.

Just think on Dabi having to share space with Toga after that makes it extra hilarious.

And another important reason is because as you know I ship DabiTen a lot, but here's a thing: I like Geten being a trans boy.

So the consequences of Dabi being super sexist but at the same time Geten being sort of the love of his life are fun because it will drive him mad for clash with his own beliefs. I imagine a situation in which Dabi tries to have sex with Geten, but when he found what Geten haves under his clothes it left him in shock.

Ah the sweet drama.

For some reason I think this is Dabi's favorite book ever:

Hahahahaha hahahahaha

Listen @nyc3 I do love some good old joke "Dabi is a sexist" but in canon...we don't see much to proof that. He was rude to his mom and sis one time ? Sure. He was under a fucked up situation as he knew why he was born.

Plus when he wakes up from the coma, he wanted to see his mother and sister.

Funny jokes

But don't think dabi is a sexist.

That's the magic of MHA secundary characters, they're blanks ready to be filled by our own ideas.

Sadly no, we never got an official name for the Cider House members not even the leader himself despite his dope looking design and cool quirk. He really got a lot of style and good presentation for a minor villain used to glaze Shoto.

Mustard is really a case on his own. He got all the basis for being a fascinating character, yet he appears even less than Cider House leader ironically. He doesn't have a name either.

So chapter 1 is already beta, and now my beta reader is helping me with chapter 2. This weekend will post the fic

I have a question...What you think Cinder does when he´s on, hum, let´s say off days?

Cool, I'm excited to read the final version.

So about Cider hobbies, I did mention some times that he's a surfer but that doesn't limit to the sea. After all he uses his quirk to surf in land as well.

Can we call his activity urban surfing? Pretty sure he's one of the few people who can pull off such sport lol.

I can imagine him going with his friends or solo to a derelic industrial complex or a scenario like that, a place with a lot of obstacles were practice his style for fun and training at the same time.

He's also a very good graffiti artist who likes to leave his own mark in a lot of places. Very standar for a gang to do so, but Cider likes a bit more of personality for his own graffiti.

He probably has an artistic side even if he doesn't realize that. And most likely Cider is the kind of guy who consume mangas more because of the pretty art than the story itself lol.

Midoriya probably was surprised they share a common interest on some geek stuff. I can see them having lazy days of just chill and cuddling, both reading mangas of different genres with some music in the background and making comments here and there about the story and characters.

I hate how this subplot about AFO producing a line of experiments in response to OFA seem to be an afterthought and never properly fleshed out.

Like isn't very obvious?

You have 9 OFA users, and there's also 9 test subjects with the objective of create the perfect AFO successor/vessel.

And both Nine and Deku are such perfect foils to each other that feels really frustrating and insulting how their potential is wasted in favor of a forced dynamic with Shigaraki, who never had the same appeal as character or as a Deku rival.

This plot could've been generational if it was well written I swear.

Seeing your analysis of Nine, I really think he could have been the main antagonist of the manga, since you can see that he really is more interesting than Tomura.

Same! Nine is exactly what people think shigaraki is.

Honestly it's bewildering that nine got less then 10% of shigarakis screentime and managed to be better then him in every way possible.

I think it's also interesting that nine and izuku also easily share parallels with one another whether that be:

The similar belief that not everyone is born equal

Their names both meaning nine

The way they both would do anything for the ones they care for

The imagery they both share when it comes to not giving up even if it takes a physical toll on them

They also contrast with their beliefs with how izuku wants to produce a fairer society while nine wants a society where the strong rule

Both of them having a sky type quirk with izuku it's float and with nine it's his original quirk

There's more but nine already has the foundations of a great antagonists and is basically what the fandom thinks shigaraki is.

I love when a woman is confident enough to tell his bf that he looks how af.

The scar kissing... uf.

And yeah they would have sex on the middle of the beach despite how impractical it is, but hey think about this: they have sex in the most unbelievable places you can imagine, from alleways to rooftops. All this after fight villains together since that turns them on.

Shippy thing for the couple.

Cinder teaching Izu how to swim/surf. Like, in canon Izu never was in a beach (sigh we do have a light novel where the main joke is "Izu is almost eat by an orc bc he thought it was the hero orc" hate it) well, here Izumi has a beach day.

A few details.

Aside the scars on her arms. Izuchan has big boobs.

No, this isn't ecchi. There a narrative reason for that.

Heroines with big boobs are more profitable bc you can explore the sex appeal, see Momo. But what you think happens with villainess that are well endowed?

They are seductress, sluts who will steal your man.

Izumi never even kisses someone ...she is getting comfortable with a lot before considering kisses. Which it's funnier bc the media paints her as this slut when she is not. Before meeting cinder she was on the path on finally seeing her scars as smth other than painful. (Not to attribute this to one guy)

So...in a beach day, Izumi in her bikini is a character development visually.

Cinder is allowed to admire...she is a pretty girl.

He uses his quirk and teaches her how to surf.

They just having fun.

Oh I was totally into making a good beach day for them. It's the quintessential form of fanservice after all.

The orca thing was actually canon? I always thought it cames from that "smash" comic that was explicitly non canon and self parody.

Anyways, while I'm not super into big boobs for woman to be considered attractive, is a fact that if Midoriya was a woman she would have the same atributes as Inko who certainly has very generous proportions.

And Cider surely likes that, and oh boy he sure isn't shy to express how much he likes the body of his girl (scars included of course).

And do you think Izumi is into guy with big pecs? Because Cider got some nice ones and he loves use tank tops just to make them look better.

Them having a good day in the water is all what they deserve after dealing with a lot of shit. And Izumi is a quick learner so by the end of the day she would be surfing like a professional, impressing Cider.

I like to think they would end the day looking at the sunset sitting together on the warm sand, Izumi resting her head on Mizunami shoulder and he has an arm wrapped around her waist. They got a kissing sessions of course, what a way to end a good day.

As a marketing strategy I get why Aldera would do all the moves to get Bakugou at U.A, since one can imagine for them having as future reference "Pro Hero Bakugou Katsuki graduated from our prestigious school". Is more of a greedy spin rather than just them having a racist (quirkist?) agenda, which I find more believable.

Good for Izu to get justice. They should also close the school and use the building to open a center that helps the victims of bullying and other more real social issues.

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Oh you're adding the creep factor into the mix?

Hear me out: what about Aizawa being in this too?

Because you know, his preferential trait for Shinso over other students could easily be twisted into something really sick if you want. As you probably know Shinzawa is a really popular ship for both characters.

What if Aizawa was having sexual encounters with Shinso? But of course that totally didn't have anything to do with the mysterious "ascension" of Shinso into the hero course (and expulsion of some random folk for allow that place being free) despite his notorious low performance and he already being put in general studies.

I imagine Izu using his resources of hacking and contacts (would be fun if she hires Mineta to spy on Aizawa using his talents) to get her a lot of tapes that incriminate Aizawa as a pedo. Since yes, Shota obviously would be dumb enough to record himself having sex with Shinso.

Hell you can even add Bakugou into that creep act, as BakuZawa is also very popular. Imagine this fun yet twisted scenario were Shinso turns against Aizawa because he thought he was the only "special boy" of Shota.

Yet I imagine Shota wouldn't be charged for the worst part of this. For his ex students becoming villains he will face justice and Nezu probably would try to use his influence to get him free of charges, but in private Izu threats Aizawa to expose his sexual tapes to the press if he doesn't declare himself responsible and also reveals a lot of shit that happens in U.A under that fachade of perfection.

Aizawa totally defeated accepts and he goes a time to jail, but pretty tame compared to what he actually deserves. Obviously his heroic and teacher career are ruined for life anyway, and Nezu would use his influence for ensure Shota never goes behind a desk again just as a revenge for expuse the true face of the U.A

You decide if that's enough punishment for him.

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I wouldn't discard Mirio getting totally brainwashed into what Nighteye expects from him, so his weirdo acts don't bother him at all and he probably would defend his master.

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Cider quirks having the unintended side effect of getting everyone with a wet shirt is a happy mistake lol.

I guess at first their atraction would be purely physical, that's normal, but when they start to meet each other they discovered all the things they actually like from the other.

On the seltzer bunny 🐰 fic I finally have an outline for the first chapter. And yes, Cinder does make an appearance. Ok my idea is basically Izumi makes Aldera her first target.

It doesn't make a big target if you see with western eyes but in Japan, teachers are respected so...Izumi showing how aldera is corrupt is a big deal, many eyes are on her and aldera.

Izumi's crimes:

Breaking in

Invasion of propriety

Identity thief

Hacking

But she exposes Aldera as it is. She ruins their lives as they ruined hers and the others. No Redestro is used nor they are anti QUIRKLESS...here they are willing to sacrifice everyone for BK (and BK is ranking bellow Mineta) and didn't spare a second (hm, this au is set UA is a colleague and they DO use the image of the students to create polls and whatnot.

You read that right ...Bk ranks bellow Mineta.

The first thing in this chapter is how Izumi is walking among the rain. She is wet and I do like this small nudge to the talks we had about what would tease Cinder...Izumi will say the phrase "I'm wet" a lot.

As for Cinder...he hears about the Usagi(means bunny) and is curious...he is not sure if she is real or if the Aldera's staff is making things up. Their crimes do make others educators frown at them...their careers are over and so is Aldera. A new school will born.

Cinder is not a fan of corrupt schools and finds aldera really stupid but if this bunny is real...that's interesting.

Cinder: if we are to meet, we will.

(I love put those lil moments here and there. Hints to the couple. Again, she says "I'm wet a lot" and is not an innuendo until it is)

Izumi is planning her next move. Nighteye. Everyone is motivated by revenge in the team. I label them "team found family revenge" lol

Congrats for the progress with your story! I want to read it as soon you publish the chapters, so let me know when that happens.

I'm aware of how Japan culturally holds a lot more respect and give importance to education than the west. Ngl I kinda admire them for that, for story porpuse I get what you try to make.

And since you're ruining the lifes of bad teachers do you have some plans for Aizawa next? I think you didn't like him that much either.

Lol isn't weird at all that Mineta should classify better than BK, as after all besides the stalker stuff and such Mineta is capable of having human decency and interact with other people normally. He also smarter according to canon and his worst tendencies became pretty tame later on.

The "I'm wet" is going to take a new meaning later lol. But I'm here for the slowburn so this sounds interesting.

So you dislike Nighteye? Yeah he's not a very likeable character tbh.

Love the fact the anime made the three AFO users share the same (or almost the same) shield quirk:

Nine.

Shigaraki.

All For One.

Which is funny and notice I said the anime, because in the manga neither Shigaraki or All For One are using (or have) shield quirks.

They likely use air cannon or some blast quirk in those scenes ->

But Bones specifically changed that into quirks that resemble Nine's Air Wall quirk.

I like to think it's a tribute to my king 🤍

However the shield quirks of the other two seem to be much weaker that Air Wall.

AFO shield quirk in particular is probably the worst, as it only covers a very small radious and it was destroyed by one Jet Burn from Endeavor.

Meanwhile Nine's version of the quirk can cover a gigantic radious if he user wants:

Also Air Wall can stack multiple shields into one and it was powerful enough to stop a charge from Deku going full 100%

All this makes me think Air Wall is such a boosted quirk in general.

No wonder why Nine stole that one. Smart boy.

It's funny cus what @thr0wnawayy mentions is sort of what happens in the fight of Cider House and Bakugou, as C.H shooting water beams at high preasure was giving BK a lot of problems and was Shoto who defeated Cider (even if there's problems with that too).

Realistically a lot of quirks should be a complete danger for everyone in the battlefield, explosions are just one example. But what about any fire quirk? Shoto almost killed Shindo once, but obviously outside that very specific case Horikoshi never make a big deal out of the dangers of using fire in the wrong situation even if that's even more dangerous than explosions if you ask me.

Or what about Mina shooting literal acid, how tf that's not dangerous in any situation? We seen that shit disolving everything in the blink of an eye, how she even uses it and not kill every villain? It's silly.

Quirks are dangerous only if Horikoshi decides to make them dangerous. Which is giant flaw in the logic to introduce the concept of "villanous quirks" that seems to be a big social issue.

What's even a "villanous quirk" then? Brainwash is super horrible but burn people with fire/acid isn't?

What bothers me the most about Izuku's character is that it seems like he can't feel anything, like because he can't be angry with what happens to him, you know why he can't have negative feelings towards Bakugou? This admiration he has for the bomb boy is not normal and healthy, it reminds me of Stockholm Syndrome. Bakugou stans say that Izuku is boring, but when talking about this thing about him not being angry with Bakugou, they keep saying that we don't understand Izuku's character. What's your opinion? Am I exaggerating?

I don't think you're exaggerating. In fact, I think it's deliberate on Horikoshi's part.

I began to realize Izuku's character was regressing the minute I first came across this scene:

This is the only scene I can justify hating Izuku's character because it was such an out of pocket line coming from him. And it kind of stuck in my head for weeks because it felt so OOC. Like, Izuku of all characters pushing for Todoroki to forgive Endeavor? It made no sense to me.

But do you see how it pans to Bakugou?

To me, this is Horikoshi indirectly attempting to absolve Bakugou. Izuku's line here is trying to communicate that that's how he feels about Bakugou.

Similarly to All Might saying Izuku doesn't hold what Bakugou did against him, this is another piece of plot manipulation from Horikoshi. Bakugou's redemption is pushed through the words of others, not through his actions. Especially when it comes to how he treated Izuku.

If Izuku, at any point, was still upset or noticeably traumatized by Bakugou's actions, Bakugou couldn't have been reasonably redeemed. Because there would be no feasible reason to even have him around Izuku and the only reason Bakugou's even relevant is due to Horikoshi sticking him onto Izuku in every arc

If Mustard stayed relevant, how would you characterize him? I mean things past his baseline "pragmatic psycho" thing he has going on.

Interesting question, as I do agree that Mustard would need more things personality wise to work with if he's going to be a more long term character.

At first he's indeed very pragmatic, especially compared to the rest of the league and his implied age being probably the youngest even behind Toga.

But as pragmatic he can be he's still a child with an inmature side, and we can see that when he gets angry at Tetsutetsu and can't help himself but act less carefully and being a bit overcondident. He also seems to destile some represed anger on what he considers an easy target.

I would like to explore more that side of him, as Mustard seems to be very resentful against the education system for some reason, maybe is his "villanous" quirk that left him without the opportunity of being a hero? Who knows, but his dialogue can be interpreted as he wants something about hero schools and hates the ones who have the privilege of go to UA for example.

Other thing I would do with Mustard is explore the idea of him not fitting with the LoV.

Because let's be real, he doesn't fit there at all. His style and approach to crime sooner or later will clash with the rest of the members, especially Shigaraki at that point of the story and I can't see Mustard taking his bs once AFO is out of the picture and crusty boy has to lead.

Mustard might be a child but probably he has more clear ideas than the rest of the LoV and once the initial hype for shooting people and do random chaos he would think Shigaraki ideas of destroy everything are worthless crap, so he obviously will aim for better objetives.

I can imagine Mu having a bit of superiority complex and leaving the LoV for look better oppotunities with people who can aspire to bigger plans. Probably the Shie Hassaikai following the canon timeline.

But also, I would like give Mustard a more vulnerable and human side outside being just a gunnuts.

The fact he's a child in a world of crime and danger might have more downsides for him than he initialy realizes.

I can see Mustard sometimes feeling alone and out of place next to a lot of people way older than him.

He might want to have friends of his age like a normal child would do, even if he tries to negate that idea.

Also where is his family? Mustard would likely want to have a place to call home and feel loved, despite tries to convince himself to no need such basic things.

That's what I can think for now. Mustard had a really cool concept to imagine scenarios if he stayed as a recurrent character.