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I’ve finally started to pin down how the MTS Kwami look! Kinda gooberish, idk…

In a lot of rewrites I’ve looked at tend to water down the romance aspect of Miraculous by either not making Adrien and Marinette like each other, removing secret identities, or otherwise not really focusing on the love angle. And that can be a good thing, (especially if you actually fill the space with more focus on the different interpersonal relationships of the show). At the same time, I… kinda feel like it’s missing the appeal of ML in the first place? It’s an action romance show (a act-rom? Rom-act? Idk) which is actually pretty rare in the general media (usually it’s either mostly romance with a bit of action or vice versa with a shoehorned love interest), not to mention that the love square focuses on one of the core ideas of the show (relationships and they affect both your perception and trust).

So yeah, not only are we keeping the love square, but we’ve actually planned out how it progresses through the show (which I think is the main challenge with the concept: creating proper pacing). Therefore, I (finally) give you…

MTS Love Square:

To start, Adrien and Marinette will behave very differently with their crushes than in the original.

- Chat Noir is a lot more hesitant about being open with his feelings initially (due to various events before and in the first season) and prefers to hide behind ironic declarations. When he eventually does confess and is rejected, he is a bit disappointed but takes it well (if anything he’s more worried about LB not wanting to be his friend anymore). It’s actually because of CN that the secret identities are a factor in MTS (the identities are never a concrete rule, but he doesn’t trust himself enough to learn who LB actually is, and LB wants to wait until he is ready before she learns who CN is).

- Marinette gets more time to know Adrien before falling in love with him (and becomes aware of how over-the-top antics from admirers make Adrien uncomfortable due to his celebrity status), therefore, she tries to be a lot more subtle with any approaches she makes. Marinette still might stammer (as she does in most stressful situations) around Adrien when getting used to her crush on him, but doesn’t really make complex plans or usually swap words around. When she confesses to Adrien and is rejected, she also handles things fairly well despite her disappointment.

As for the general timeline for the square, we have:

- S1 (first half): Adrinette meets each other and becomes casual friends. Marinette initially just thinks Adrien is okayish (not super interested in supermodels), which actually makes Adrien more determined to be her friend (as she’s one of the few people who treats him like a normal person). Ladynoir meet and DO NOT GET ALONG, both due to representing opposite concepts, and then reminding each other of certain people in their lives who they have issues with (and Tikki and Plagg egging on their rivalry). They prefer to handle things on their own.

- S1 (second half): Adrienette become even closer as they have a few silly interactions (chiefly in Befana, Stormy Weather, and Guitar Villain). Ladynoir learn to work together and start seeing the other person for who they truly are (Timetagger, Puppeteer). They develop a strong bond due to their mutually stressful situation (Copycat also happens, which increases their concern for each other and CN’s fear of hurting LB). In Glaciator, the ACTUAL love square begins (Marinette falls in love with Adrien, Chat Noir falls in love with Ladybug). We get a handful of Marichat interactions (briefly in Timetagger, Befana, Puppeteer, and especially Weredad). Ladrien makes a minor appearance in Style Queen.

- S2 (first half): Both CN and Marinette work up the courage to confess their feelings to their counterparts. CN doesn’t want to become obsessive and harm LB with his feelings, while Marinette worries about potentially losing one of the few friends she has. Various romance related occurrences happen in their class that affect how they think about their crushes (Stoneheart, Evillustrator, Dark Cupid). When they finally do admit their feelings, a mutual friendzoning occurs (whether they have no romantic interest in their other selves or simply do not know how to process having a second crush is up to interpretation) and they try to figure out how to interact with each other post rejection. (Oh yeah, and we get a bit of Marichat in Evillustrator.)

- S2 (second half): Kind of a continuation of the last plot thread for S2’s first half. Adrien and Marinette navigate their friendship after Marinette is rejected, and Ladybug and Chat Noir try to ensure that their bond remains unshakable as ever. However, extreme circumstances (especially on the hero side) keeps them from fully processing their feelings.

- S3: Pretty light on love square content. Lots of interactions between sides (Even some Marichat with Gamer and some Ladrien with Gorizilla), but they’re trying to move on from each other. Adrien and Kagami (who was introduced in S2) fall in love, as do Marinette and Luka (also introduced in S2). We get the occasional hint that there is still some lingering feelings between the protagonists, but not much aside from that.

- S4: Lukanette and Adrigami play out over the course of S4 (and eventually break up near the end of the season). While there are other reasons why the couples don’t end up working together, the fact that Marinette never 100% moved on from Adrien, and vice versa with the hero identities, may be a factor in why they weren’t able to make things work with the alt ships.

- S5 (first half): Marinette and Adrien process and recover from their break ups. Eventually they discover their feelings for each other (Marinette learns that Adrien is in love with Ladybug and CN learns that LB is in love with Adrien). This leads to Ladrien dating (controversial, I know) but issues continuously crop up in their relationship.

- S5 (second half): The various issues with Ladrien are explored (mutual guilt over feeling like they’re lying to the other one by dating them after being friendzoned in another identity, trying to hide why they know so much about each other despite barely interacting as Ladrien, Ladybug worries about endangering the civilian Adrien, Adrien worries about not being able to help Ladybug as CN because she’s trying to protect him as Adrien). They manage to (indirectly) share some other problems as Marichat, but then they begin to realize that they’ve also developed crushes on each other as Marichat, which causes EVEN more problems! Things seem to be getting better when CN is finally ready to learn who LB is (after confronting a nightmare of a LB who thinks he’s a monster in Sandboy), and reveals himself as Adrien, inviting LB to do the same. Unfortunately, this shakes LB pretty badly (as she had a Sandboy nightmare of Ephemeral, a potential Adrien Akuma), and she isn’t ready for her half of the reveal yet.

- S5 (finale): When LB is able to put the pieces together on who HM is, she attempts to fight him on her own (due to knowing CN is Adrien and not wanting him to deal with that), unfortunately, this does not go well for her when (big spoiler I probably shouldn’t reveal yet), causing (even bigger spoiler I DEFINITELY shouldn’t reveal yet). When they two reunite (and Adrien finds out who LB is), they need some time to deal with everything, but finally get together completely at the end of the show.

Conclusion

For anyone disappointed about not getting post reveal dating, I don’t blame you (we have vagueeee plans for a sequel show where there is post reveal dating, but the plans are a lot hazier so I can’t say as much about it).

So yeah, that’s the brief rundown of the MTS love square. If you want more information about a specific side, feel free to send me an ask!

After this I’ll probably write my character notes on Felix MTS, but we’ll see.

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Since Alya and Chloe are done, I can get into some of the other potential topics of discussion from the last poll, namely

Tikki & Plagg MTS

And why we decided to ruin them (we’re sorry y’all)

Tikki and Plagg kinda start out the story as morally grey (if not downright sinister) characters who antagonize their holders. (Well, at first the two try to get on their holders good side so they’ll do what they want, but when that falls through…) This was partially done to drive the plot (as I’ll explain later) and partially to further characterization (experimenting with the Kwami as complex characters who aren’t “the good guys” in every case. Also less to “fix” their canon selves, as Plagg especially had a strong personality in the OG, and more to take them in a different, MTS suited, direction.)

Tikki has the power of creation, but she also represents order. She believes herself to be a perfect, virtuous being who always knows what’s best (she also genuinely thinks she’s helping, but is pretty deluded in this front). This causes her to be arrogant and controlling, and primarily manifests in her relationship with Marinette through their interactions and the Miracle Cure.

Much like the original story, Tikki frequently tries to teach Marinette lessons on how to be a proper person. The key difference, is that she encourages selflessness and excellence even when it isn’t necessary, and some of Marinette’s “faults” aren’t actually things that she does wrong (Tikki is the type to lecture Marinette for an extended period of time about patience and compassion just because she got slightly annoyed at someone for being rude). In many regards, this Tikki can also be quite hypocritical on this front.

For those unfamiliar, the Miracle Cure now has the consequence of sapping its users with energy in order to repair all the damage. Tikki conveniently “forgets” to mention this little detail to Marinette, and constantly stresses how everything depends on her to stay in order. When Marinette realizes what the ability has been doing to her and renounces it, Tikki frequently guilt trips her for being “selfish”. (Tikki being more obsessed with control and opposed to any sort of disarray was integral to furthering Marinette’s end of the S1 powers plot)

Eventually Tikki does come to accept that she was wrong to have such unfair expectations for Marinette, along with ignoring her own faults and wanting the world to be in a rigid, constant “perfection”. (Witnessing Chloe behave like a little brat, while noticing how she is equally demanding of Marinette, probably helps Tikki get a reality check). Character Growth Tikki will still be different from Miracubug Tikki, as her new attempts to help Marinette will be a lot more awkward than OG Tikki. She also retains a bit of sass, so she’s rarely completely nice and friendly in demeanor.

Plagg, being Tikki’s opposing force, represents chaos in addition to destruction. He likes to run around doing whatever he wants and shaking them up as much as possible. He cares very little about who or what gets damaged in the process, and doesn’t even try to fool himself into thinking he’s a good guy (rip Miracubug Plagg 😢).

For what it’s worth, he does like Adrien when he first meets him, seeing him as a kindred spirit looking for freedom in a world determined to tie him down. However, he doesn’t like him enough to warn him about the harmful effect the Wildcat ability has on his mind. This is mostly due to Plagg’s love for the destructive, chaotic nature of the ability (Kwami physically can’t use their powers without their holder due to the Miraculous’s inhibitive function, so this is the closed either Kwami gets to having their natural power again). That being said, Plagg’s warped affection for Adrien is an additional motivation (thinking that him losing all self control and succumbing to every instinct he has is an “improvement” to being restrained in anyway).

When Adrien renounces the power, Plagg feels very annoyed that Adrien is now rejecting that wild part of his powers and as a result is “looking down on him”. Plagg frequently taunts Adrien, telling him that without the Wildcat, he’ll just go back to being that miserable, obedient boy that he was when he first got the miraculous.

When Plagg does come to care about Adrien, as well as appreciate the existence of things other than him (and is now more reluctant to the blind destruction of everything), he is a bit more similar to his Miracubug self. The main difference being that he’s a bit more energetic (though still prone to bouts of laziness) and not as good at expressing himself verbally, preferring to physically comfort Adrien instead.

I think that’s all of the relevant details. (@dumblr-account, remind me if I missed something super important.) I know I didn’t structure this like the typical character notes post, and that’s because the Kwami, while still complex in their own right, don’t have quite as much going on as the human characters (mainly due to age and backstory differences).

Just my two cents

tumblr is being a little punk but I think I can finally post this

(The lengths I go to for you, Marketable Clay Figure Carapace)

Was practicing drawing with a larger scale and also wanted to try a few ideas I had to refine the Calamity design. Hopefully his details are more noticeable now!

More heroes!!! (Yes, I know Minotaurox and Ryuko have extremely similar color schemes, please just pretend they look unique lol.)

Polymouse/Mylene is a very interesting character in MTS, as she seems fairly similar to her original counterpart, but a significant part of her background (and by extension, how she connects to the plot) is quite different…