Anti Lore Olympus - Blog Posts

Yeah I really dislike Lore Olympus for that reason myself ... not just Apollo, but because the whole time of the comic is pretty rapey. Hades the “nice guy” who thinks he needs a pat on the head because he deliberately took an unconscious girl home without checking with her friends or Mom, but clearly he’s a good guy because he didn’t rape her like anyone else would have?? Apparently?? Idk to each their own and I know people have different tastes than me but it really bothered me -koko

I disliked it too for same reasons you said but this was too muchI don’t feel well and my hands are literally trembling. They should have added a serious trigger warning to it. It’s a double punch in the face. Lack of trigger warning (an a serious one, they merely said “sexual trama” since when rape is sexual trama?) and they used Apollo for this.Is such a lack of creativity to use the speech of “other men are rapist but not me” to make a character be likable. Like, cant they make Hades being a cool character just because? No, they have to reduce other gods to rapists to make him pop outThis is lame and I’m very uncomfortable :(

A small LO painel redraw ( i'm not a LO fan)

The original painel:

Krokos y Whitty

Ok, vamos a hablar de este par , recientemente volví a leer Lore olympus, y si bien me considero una fan ,también creo que hay cosas que se pueden mejorar, tales como lo son la representación, la escritura, ma codificación , el como se exponen las tesis de la historia, etc , hace ya un tiempo hice una pequeña crítica a este comic , use la palabra "ninfa en el refrigerador ", para hablar de este par , pero , sabes como puedes sacar a una chica... o nunca en este caso ,del refrigerador, darle una historia, a si que acompañen a ver como creo yo hubiera sido interesante darles una historia ( aclaro que no quiero creerme una menor escritora que RS, pero lo veo como un ejercicio interesante y un tema a tratar de mi interés exponer estos pensamientos), iniciemos

🌷 Whitty : ok, me voy a ver como una hipócrita, pero seamos justos, no tiene mucho que decir de personalida , ni en mitología griega, vi de algún mito donde Persefone tiene una amiga ninfa, que se opone a su secuestro rotundamente, y por x o y razón se vuelve una fuente , no encontré el nombre en las fuentes en español, de saberlo comenten por favor, pero aquí la cosa , podría colocarse esto en la historia como el que ella estuviera del lado de Artemisa, como una persona que heredó la sobreprotección de Demeter,algo a si como la hermana mayor de Kore ,que aún con su sobreprotección, buscará lo mejor para Kore y su familia, incluso podría ayudar a desarrollar un poco más a Artemisa,porque tendríamos ya a 2 personas que son precavidas con la relación principal, y no son necesariamente malas, que al final del dia son en el lado precavido , ayudaría a no ver a Artemisa como una loca obsesiva y como una distraída de mierda, si no como una verdadera amiga , otra idea que pensé es básicamente combinarla con Daphne, porque esta muy raro que siendo tan amigas no se haya mencionado antes , o que no parezca recordar nada sobre las 2 prácticamente hermanas de Persefone, entonces esto le daría más trasfondo a la relación, más que solo decir que se conocieron porque vivían en el mismo lugar, básicamente lo único que consigo es mezclarla con otros personajes que ya tenían más representación, pero en general,yo la hubiera colocado como una hermana mayor sobreprotectora

🌺 Krokos : bueno, a diferencia de su hermana, ella si tiene más que decir con lo que respecta a la mitología griega original, resulta que ella tiene el nombre griego que se usaba para el azafrán ,este del cual se relaciona con un personaje ,Crocus , el cual algunos te dirán era amante de Hermes , de hecho su relación y mito tiene mucho parecido con el mito de Jacinto y Apolo ( que también deberíamos hablar de él) , entonces viendo que el cómic no tienen la mejor representación lgbt+, yo le hubiera colocado como un hombre trans ( porque al menos yo no encontré nada que hablara de ninfas masculinas) pero seria interesante, porque se criaria en un lugar con puras mujeres, muchas las cuales fueron abusadas por hombres, sin mencionar que estarían en un entorno tradicional( el reino mortal ), creo que con eso se puede hacer mucho , un chico ninfa que lucha contra el sexismo en un mundo de dioses,mientras tiene como novio al dios de los ladrones ( que seamos justos , es un partidazo ese Hermes ), si Whitty era la hermana mayor muy recta , el seria el hermano de en medio, que por el contrario pudo vivir su vida hasta cierto punto en libertad, estando más de acuerdo con la rebeldía de Persefone, que si bien ama a su familia, sabe que siempre fue el raro del rebaño, por eso encaja también con Hermes , que por lo que se ve , además de ser caótico, siempre fue tachado por ser un idiota ,para después utilizar esta vicion social a su favor, que como sabemos se preocupa mucho por sus seres amados , solo vean como habla de su madre , seria esta relación caótica pero con problemas de sobreprotección, donde sin querer , Hermes le recuerda a su novio lo frágil que es en este mundo, pero también que puede luchar por su libertad... tipo Legoshi y Haru

🥀 el evento: muy bien, en esta versión ellos no mueren (usaré pronombres masculinos porque ya establecí que Krokos seria hombre en esta versión), si pasa la invasión de los mortales, en esta versión solo salen terriblemente heridos , incluso llegando a crear cicatrizes, si nos guiamos por la idea de que Whitty se combina con Daphne, podría hablarse de body positive en esta industria del modelaje, una ninfa con heridas que jamás van a sanar, logra volverse una de las más aclamadas modelos de su época, también afectaría al personaje de Persefone,porque seamos justos, se siente mas como si hiciera toda la masacre por su orgullo, que por sus amigos , a si que se siente raro , entonces aquí no hay insultos, ni ego, solo una hermana mayor herida , que se suponía debía de cuidar a la menor , más siente culpa por lo que la menor hizo en su nombre, con cicatrices que jamás se Irán, ahora sí hablamos de Krokos, se podría hablar de estereotipos de género, donde este no quiere sentirse como una damisela a la que rescatar, no quiere entrar en ningún concepto tradicionalmente femenino, mitad por los estereotipos del olympo hacia hombres y ninfas , mitad porque no quiere sentirse indefenso otra vez, y veríamos como poco a poco se habré a otros de ese momento traumático, dicidienco que el querer ayuda con sus emociones no le hace menos hombre que cualquiera

🌾 Demeter: también me gustaría hablar de su relación con Demeter, por lo poco que sabemos , ella las amaba como a sus hijas, a si que me idea es esta , donde Krokos y Whitty no son solo damas de compañía, son sus hijos , naciendo antes que Persefone , creados por la misma diosa de la tierra , ahora, por lo poco que leí en los comics en inglés,Demeter tuvo la clásica rutina de padre Narcisista de " el niño de oro , el chivo expiatorio y el niño invisible ", siendo ella el chivo expiatorio,Hera el niño de oro y el invisible Hestia , aquí ella trata de romper este siglo... pero cuesta, Demeter sabe que hay una diferencia de poder entre sus 3 hijos , su relación con Persefone mucho no cambia , pero creo que con esto en mente ella sería más consciente de sus privilegios, ella sabe qué las ninfas no tienen los mismos derechos , ni son tan fuertes como dioses , su madre le hace saber que tiene una responsabilidad con gente como sus hermanos, ya saben , el típico " un gran poder conlleva una gran responsabilidad ", y chocaría con la idea de estar con Hades en un lugar donde no está su gente, con Whitty ella seria la mayor de las hermanas , posiblemente la única que sabe del asunto de la diosa de la fertilidad (que también debe de tener una revisadita), pero ella siempre se vio como la protectora, con el síndrome de la hermana mayor, a sabiendas lo que podría pasarle a Persefone con literalmente cualquier dios , talvez también haya algo de discordia entre hermanas en algún punto, porque al final del día todos esperan que Persefone sea la sucesora solo por ser una diosa , ella que era la hermana mayor de pronto se reduce a una simple asistente , mientras sus hermanos le hace ojitos a los dioses que por años los han tenido reprimidos, ahora sí hablamos de Krokos, trasladaría ese sentido de soledad que no está muy bien justificado de Persefone a Krokos, porque el sabe que no encaja , es el único hombre de su comunidad, es la única ninfa que no es esta hermosa mujer ligada a la naturaleza, si no un chico rebelde que siempre quiso mostrarle a su hermana menor el mundo, que se enamoro de un dios que podría mostrarle el mundo , aquí el seria el más dispar con Demeter, posiblemente también ignorando lo de la diosa de la fertilidad, el seria el que alienta más el caos en la familia, pero aún a si ama a Demeter, si la señora encubrio a su hija en un asesinato,no veo porqué no aceptaría que si preciosa bebé ninfa es en realidad un muchacho , pero aún en esta sociedad creada por ella , simplemente no pensó en un caso a si, provocando que su hijo llegue a un mundo donde es único y aceptado , pero incomprendido y solitario,mas los 2 luchas arduamente por entenderse , ya saben, el tropo de madre perfecta e hijo imperfecto , tipo Alma y Bruno pero con más amor , además de verdaderos esfuerzos por entenderse , se vería que Demeter no fue perfecta, más se podrían hacer varios paralelismos con los 6 traidores , con su crianza en comparación a Metis y Cronos , no es perfecta , pero aún en un mundo lleno de sexismo, violencia, corrupción y guerra, creo un oasis de paz para sus 3 hijos, siendo la mejor madre que pudo ser

Bueno , llegué al final, muchas gracias por leer mi reescritura de personajes

Critica a lore of olympus ( voy en el cap 189 , temporada 2 , para aclarar )

Ok, esto no será lindo, pero mientras más leo el cómic, y más leo opiniones negativas y positivas del tema , me quedé de acuerdo con unas , con otras no tanto y llegué a crear opiniones propias , pero me centraré más en el lado negativo de sus enseñanzas y valores con respecto al género ... porque seamos justos, a todos nos gusta ver todo del lado negativo , pero no me mal entiendan, me gusta el cómic,pero también creo que un ejercicio mental bueno, es necesario criticar lo que te gusta , para que el arte pueda florecer de forma diferente, y podamos crear algo mejor en un futuro no tan lejano... a si que empezemos la masacre

. Los roles de género de hades y persefone: no puedo evitar darme cuenta de el como , a pesar de que el cómic busca dar valores en contra de estos , su pareja principal es demasiado estereotipada , lo vemos en la caracterización de persefone, al ser ultra femenina, es casi una princesa Disney, y el estereotipo de la chica perfecta (como isabela madrigal pero ella buscaba criticar este estereotipo), es completamente rosa , es más hermosa que el resto , es más inteligente (aunque esto sea más una excusa o una característica informada en casi todo el cómic), pero también es muy ingenua y delicada , y toda característica no necesariamente femenina llega a ser negativa, como el pelo corto (que de paso, la única mujer con el pelo corto y que le guste , es atenea y eris , y la primera es el estereotipo de lesbiana masculina , y la otra es el tropo de mala mujer) , también su enojo ,que es lo que impulsa un trauma que marca el personaje , la chica solo llega a enojarse cuando es su punto de ruptura,y hasta eso , cuando lo hace por defender a sus amigas es vista como un monstruo, mientras que es para defenderse a ella misma , termina siendo defendida por un hombre , luego esta hades , el cual es el estereotipo de millonario de cualquier novela romántica, siempre le compra cosas a persefone, es muy atento , le vale la diferencia de edades , que por cierto, talvez a la hora de discutir de relaciones con gran diferencia de edad , deberíamos de cambiar el estereotipo del hombre mayor con mujer joven , porque se tiene más estigma de ser al revés (busquen todo el drama de Reeaves y Grant , y eso que son casi de la misma edad ... y creo que ella es menor ) siempre se busca la juventud en las mujeres , mientras que los hombres , solo son vistos como el estereotipo de sugar Daddy, además de que no entiendo porque el colo azul, digo , el azul no está tan relacionado con la muerte, uno esperaría colores más grises o negros , el rosa medio lo entiendo , aunque se lo hubiera puesto a Afrodita,pero porque necesariamente rosa y azul ?, porque no , verde y negro ? , por ejemplo, tiene más lógica y no se ve tan estereotipado

. La ninfa en el refrigerador: ok, el estereotipo de mujer en el refrigerador,es básicamente, crear a un personaje femenino que solo esté destinado a morir, para que sintamos culpa por un personaje masculino, aunque el debate de si esto puede pasar con otro personaje femenino sigue abierto,pero un ejemplo de esto, lo fue con la película dulce venganza, donde el personaje de nina solo está marcado por su pasado trágico, y porque la protagonista toma venganza por ella , pasa algo similar con la amigas ninfas de persefone (que ni nombre tienen), porque solo mueren para darle un impulso narrativo a la historia, y para que sintamos lástima por persefone, fuera de eso , no sabemos nada de ellas, y algo similar pasa a con menthe, porque el que haya sido herida por persefone , es solo para sentir lástima por la culpa de persefone, aunque no entra como tal en este tropo , porque de ella si sabemos más cosas , pero igual se quita completamente la perspectiva de alguien que conocía a la mujer de forma medianamente positiva, para sentarse en la perpetradora, y hacerla ver de forma inocente

. Las ninfas también importan : hay que hablar del aspecto racial en el cómic, la codificación sirve para dar a entender ciertas realidades, a través de ciertas metáforas o representaciones, y llámenme loca ,pero las ninfas, humanos y de más criaturas están codificadas como personas racialisadas, solo es cosa de ver ma sociedad del olimpo, donde las ninfas en el mejor de los casos , son solo secretarias de dioses , y en lo más bajo ,como bailarinas en clubes de mala muerte , en cuanto a los mortales, para representarlos usualmente se usan tonos oscuros, de hecho ,muchos parecen gente negra , aún si no es históricamente exacto, o si es controversial que estén en lo más bajo de este sistema de castas , además de no ponerle características de color a ningún dios , aún si esto tendría en teoría más lógica, porque los dioses no están sujetos a una rasa humana , a si que por alguna razón persefone tuviera un afro , en teoría no se podría cuestionar, a si como no podemos cuestionar que todas las diosas tengan pelo lacio , o que todos los dioses sean fortachones , además, riordan lo hizo , no veo porqué ella no

. El estereotipo de la buena y la mala mujer : es curioso como también hay tríos románticos con características curiosas, comparemos toda la trama de apolo, con la de menthe , aún si tienen ciertos parecidos , a apolo no se le ve como "un mal hombre ", se le ve como un monstruo, alguien que hizo algo terrible, que si lo hizo , y si bien menthe también las hizo (aunque no tan malas como una violación), se le pone más en el papel de enemiga de persefone, como como una villana de verdad , no es tanto una antagonista , es solo una rival por el corazón del rey del inframundo, no se ve temible como apolo , cronos o incluso zeus , si no como decallente, un estereotipo propio de las villanas Disney como la reina de Blancanieves, menthe es la antítesis de persefone , menthe es madura , sexualmente activa , enojona y no pertenece a las clases privilegiadas, a diferencia de persefone que es inocente, vida sexual básicamente nula , trata de estar siempre feliz y es básicamente rica , y curiosamente las 2 sufren de padecimientos mentales , pero solo la que pertenece a las clases privilegiadas termina recibiendo ayuda de verdad , no es el único ejemplo, miremos a las diosas vírgenes, donde artemisa es vista como una santa por seguir las reglas, aún cuando no entiende que es complicado, incluso se enoja cuando descubre que que atenea y hestia son pareja , que si , hestia fue hipócrita, pero en vez de hablar con mujeres con las cuales convivió por mucho tiempo, y el cono están cometiendo errores , solo las ve como hipócritas y se va , talvez el único ejemplo neutral es Afrodita, donde si bien es antagónica con persefone, como tal que sean opuestas no la hace villana ... si bien su intromisión en la relación de eros es muy tóxica, no es realmente vista como una villana , somo como alguien impulsivo que al igual que otras sufre los estragos del sistema, es verdugo y víctima , como lo son menthe , hestia ,Atenea, etc

Otras cuestiones (no necesariamente críticas)

. Lo que si pondré como un punto positivo, y es una de las razones por las cuales amo el cómic, es su representación del trauma sexual, con Afrodita me gusta mucho , porque usualmente este tipo de abusos se desestiman si la víctima era sexualmente activa, pero aquí no , se nos dice que ella no se sintió contenta con lo que paso , que lo que vivió con zeus no estuvo bajo ninguna circunstancia bien, aunque admito que me identifiqué más con lo de persefone, porque si bien no sufrí como tal de violación, si llegué a hacer cosas por precion de la pareja, cosas que trataba de convencerme de que estaban bien, cuando no ,o me preguntaba si era normal

. Duda ... que carajos estudia persefone ?, digo , si mal no recuerdo tienda química (o algo parecido ), pero ya en su juicio dice que quiere estudiar derecho , no entendí bien si como una maestría, o si se quiere cambiar de carrera , si alguien lo sabe por favor comente , que no entiendo

. Hubiera sido más divertido que en ves de hacer un hombre de negocios que aparte es líder político ( no se porque me recuerda a trump ), lo mostrara más como un tipo emo ... porque amo a los emos ,y a si con cada personaje, hera como la maldita que amo , atenea más nerd y no tan simpática, talvez no poner a apolo como abusador sexual,digo , eso hubiera quedado más con zeus ( y de hecho si ocurre en los mitos )

. Más representación lgbt,solo tenemos el queerbating de hestia y atenea , y creo que la psicologa de persefone era trans , escuché por allí que se confirmó a eros como bi, pero se puede hacer mejor , pon un personaje que no esconda su sexualidad, pero que importe , no se , apolo a tenido relación con hombres, si quitaramos el hecho de la violación, lo acercaremos más a la mitología griega, imaginene una relación interracial con Jacinto

. Hay un au donde se cambia a persefone con menthe, porque en la mayoría de mitos se nos dice que hades ya estaba con persefone cuando la conocío ... y hubiera sido más interesante, digo , allí tendríamos una crítica más lógica a problemas como racismo , sexismo, abuso sexual y lucha de clases

REDESIGN AND REWRITE OF PERSEPHONE!!

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FULL NAME: Persephone "Kore" Floros

MIDDLE NAME: KORE

LAST NAME: FLOROS (From Greek φλώρος (floros) meaning "greenfinch", derived from classical Greek χλωρός (chloros) meaning "green" - Taken from Behind the Surname website)

NICKNAMES: Olive Branch, Olive, The mascot, Kore.

AGE: 29,00 (29 years old in human age.)

Personality: Kore is still a bubbly adult but now incredibly tired as well, Kore loves animals, baking, nature and is extremely friendly and outgoing still. She can be best described as an optimist, always seeing things for what they could be and ironically she dislikes pomegranates, Kore doesn't want Demeter to stress because she saw how much Demeter was stressed with taking care of nature and Kore at once when Kore was a child. So she is taking more of the burden of keeping nature in balance to keep Demeter happy and not stressed as much.

APPEARANCE: Kore is 5'7 feet fall and somewhat muscular but still chubby, Kore has short dusty olive greenish hair and dusty olive greenish skin as well. Kore has natural freckles all over her body and Kore is suffering from stress spots (the dark brown spots on her, you can barely see it but it's there.) because she is overworking herself to keep nature in balance back in the mortal realm. She has dark brown eyes like Demeter!

THE DAY DEMETER MADE HER: March, 1st (I don't what year but centuries ago.)

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INFORMATION ABOUT THIS REWRITE OF MINE!!

• The ages (I don't know how to explain it properly so I hope you understand my explanation in my rewrite ) - So supernatural deities ages are different than humans, for example a adult 30 year old woman would be just 30 but in deities it would be 30,00. Deities age quicker than humans basically but until their physical forms stop aging, their physical forms will match their ages!!

• Kore stopped aging at 27 years old and not at 19 years old (I always get the ick when I remember that fact in the OG webtoon!)

• Kore is friends with Artemis and lived with her in the God's forest when Demeter allowed her to go to the God's realm for her college, Kore did join The Goddesses of Eternal Maidenhood (or TGOEM for short) but she realized it wasn't for her and left it. Demeter did freak out about that and Kore went no contact for three years until Demeter agreed to go to counseling which Demeter agreed to cause she did realize her behavior was wrong.

• Hades is 40 years old (He ain't a Humbert Humbert clone in my rewrite!!) and Kore married him at the age of 27 years old, they have been together for 2 years and Hades has replased!!

• In my rewrite Hades is a severely depressed man with commitment issues and constantly cheating on his partners not a clone of Humbert Humbert, Persephone meets Hades when she's in her late twenties and stupidly falls in love with Hades who is complete crap. Hades goes to counseling for his issues after realizing that he actually cares for Persephone and becomes healthy/sober but something or someone makes him relapses into his cheating ways again!!

• Demeter and Kore are in counseling because Demeter's behavior and over-sheltering. Demeter was overprotective of Kore for good reasons but it became toxic and unbearing that Kore ran away at 14 which is when she met Artemis her best friend. Demeter didn't want Kore to marry Hades cause he's Zeus's brother but mostly because she knows how Hades is and his issues, Demeter created winter out of grief because she knew Hades will be horrible for Kore and she doesn't want her daughter to deal with a shit man. But she did hide her grief to help Kore and did attend Kore's wedding (she gave Hades the side eye every moment of the wedding when Kore wasn't looking.)

• Kore does have a sever mental breakdown when she finds about Hades relapsing/cheating and she accidentally changed the season to winter killing all the corps of humans which is killing them. Kore's and Demeter's emotions can be overwhelm them which causes their powers to go out of control.

• Kore is going to counseling to stop her workaholic behavior and is allowing Demeter to help her with nature but she is still stressed about the burden of nature and Hades's distant behavior (reminder he cheating now but she doesn't know yet.)

• Why is she greenish olive? - Because Demeter's color palette dusty green and dusty brown in my rewrite but also in the rewrite of mine Demeter made Kore from a flower's root and tree root.

• I made two playlists! One for Persephone and second for Hades and Kore! In the second photo she's confronting Hades about his affair!

• I am sorry if I got anything wrong and disrespected anyone or the culture!! Please inform me if I was wrong and I will take everything down!!

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LITTLE BABY 🍼🍼🍼

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• This is Zinovia!

• She is a forest nymph 🌳🌳🌳

• I used baby Minthe as a base and made my own child OC.

• She is a 8 years old and is a only child

• She is Louiza's little cousin and Zinovia thinks Louiza is a normal assistant to her boss.

• Zinovia really loves animals especially bunnies and loves the winter, she lives in the mortal realm of my AU/self insert fanfiction.

• My friends said she looks like baby Yoda 😺

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MADE A ANOTHER LORE OLYMPUS OC ‼️‼️‼️ (TW)

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• Her Name is Louiza.

• She is a Oceanic Nymph.

• Louiza uses She/Her pronouns.

• She is Zinovia's older cousin (Zinovia is my other OC. Made a mistake saying she's her aunt.)

• She is 6'7 feet tall and chubby but muscular too. She has scars on her back and thighs from fights and herself.

• She use to self harm but she no longer does since she is in therapy and on medication.

• She has Clinical depression, also known as major depressive disorder (MDD) but is on medication for it.

• She loves to be lazy and sleep all day, she loves animals too. (especially seals 🦭🦭🦭)

• Louiza has mutilated multiple people but always kept them alive through magic or medical help so they would live mutilated (which is horrible, obviously.) because her boss told her too, she nor her boss are not very moral people.

• I used Persephone as a base for Louiza and I suck at hands so I'm sorry if they look wrong or weird.

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I made OCS for Lore Olympus

1. Forest Nymph

🌳🌳🌳🌳🌳🌳🌳🌳🌳

2. Flower Nymph

🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻

3. Oceanic Nymph

🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊

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I experiment with different pens and styles, I just edited Minthe for the first nymph and I haven't made their names or anything. I'm sorry if I screwed up the locs and anything else, and I did trace over the original art as a base to make it more accurate, I add my screenshots at the end as proof.

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MASTERLIST AND RULES AND SOCIALS

TW: ZOOPHILIA, DSMP FANS, RACISM, SEXISM, PEDOPHILIA, ROMANTICIZING DISGUSTING BEHAVIOUR, PREGNANCY, ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE, DUBIOUS CONSENT, MPREG, OMEGAVERSE, CRINGE

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RULES

1. DO NOT INTERACT IF YOU'RE A

You DO NOT think fiction affects reality

A dream SMP fan (I don't care if you're a "good" fan)

A genshin impact fan (I don't care if you're a "good" fan)

Support what Aphmau did (queerbaiting, having a character that's an Asian stereotype)

Sexist

Homophobic

Racist

Zoophilie (someone who likes to fuck animals and sexualize animals)

Pro shipper (someone who ships adult x child or siblings for example)

Kpop hater

Believe age regression is weird/unnatural/is like age play (it's not, age regression is a trauma mechanism and used in therapy to help people!)

Believe age play is okay (it ain't cause why are you pretending to be a little kid or baby during sex?)

Anti-shifting/permanent shifting

Younger then 14

Don't like mary sue OCS

Support Erin Clover (an adult who ships herself with a teen character)

Don't like cringy fanfics/stories

2. PLEASE DON'T

Steal any of my drawings or fanfics

Make disgusting remarks about my underage/animal OCS

Romanticize any of my bad/problematic OCS/AUS

Don't make disgusting remarks about me since I'm a minor

3. PLEASE LEAVE IF YOU CAN'T HANDLE

Gore

Toxic relationships

Abuse

Toxic behavior

Drug use

Alcohol use

Age gap

Death

Problematic/bad OCS

Somewhat dubious consent

Mpreg

And more

AND I WILL NOT BE ROMANTICIZING ANY OF THIS, SO GO TO A DISGUSTING BLOG THAT ROMANTICIZES THE BAD SHIT!

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SOCIALS

My Carrd

My TikTok

My Pinterest

My Picsart

My Artbreeder

My Spotify

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MASTERLIST

ASTORIA UNIVERSE

Doctor Diane

Eden

Dolly Heartfillia

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AIROTSA UNIVERSE

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Interesting really...

I don't want to even imagine the face Kore would make when she finds out that in the creation of the universe the Aztec gods caused not one, not two, but FOUR genocides 🤣😭 some intentional, some not

First of all, thank you for the ask!

There’s going to be a lot of whiplash between how certain deities behave.

I won’t ramble too much but one thing I want to make clear is that I definitely won’t shy away from making the gods assholes, and in some aspects what most people would consider “evil”.

The mexica gods are pretty much always noted as being very…dual. Duality has always been a focus in the mexica religion, a god can be the god of fertility and the god of death, because life is ultimately a cycle of birth and death. They’re not good people because they aren’t humans, why would they want to conform to morality when they’re the personification of nature, of disaster, of life, of destruction, etc etc? Nature and life aren’t fair, why would deities be any different?

This can also be applied to many other deities not just the mexica ones specifically. But I do want to highlight that they’re pretty much all petty asses in one way or another. It’s one of my major complaints for LO how Persephone and Hades can’t ever be flawed, if Persephone kills 10 trillion people it’s not her fault and if Hades mutilates a guy then he had it coming, etc etc. let gods be gods and be immoral, half(or more tbh) of all myths wouldn’t exist if gods were tied down to the morality of what now most societies consider good.

Im not sure if I explained myself correctly, I usually have more ease explaining these sort of things in Spanish(but only by a bit), but hopefully it was coherent enough. Anyways I’m not going to sugarcoat anything, which other than adding more accuracy and more depth for these characters, adds more possibility for comedy lol. Persephone is in for a ride😭

Lily of the Valley and Cigarette Butts

Summary: LORE Rekindled Oneshot, canon complacent, takes place after ep 70, in which a confused Minthe opens the door to none other than Persephone.

Word Count: 2.9K

Warnings: swearing, references to violence, lots of smoking A/N: So, I’ve never posted fanfiction before, but I’m a huge fan of @genericpuff’s LORE Rekindled series and while showering, this oneshot popped into my head. And it hasn’t left. So after a lot of editing and rereads, here it is. I have never smoked a cigarette in my life so everything in this is an educated guess. I hope I did these awesome characters justice. @1theneighborhoodcoffeeaddict1

Minthe angerly paced the length of the swimming pool, wet red hair swinging behind her. He was late. Hades’s little family reunion, which usually took three or four hours, had him gone for ten. She slowly inhaled a searing breath of nicotine before putting out the stub against an expensive flower pot. 

What the fuck could he be doing? Was Zeus keeping him out there? Sometimes he brought the king of the gods home, smelling like wine and ozone, too ashamed to crawl back to his palace. She’d have to avoid her favorite living room if that’s who Hades returned with, lest she be accosted by Zeus. At least Hades didn’t bring his sister-in-law around anymore. When he’d invited her over that rainy night, she’d finally told him how much it hurt that he constantly invited that bitch into their home. And Hades had listened. Baby steps. 

Minthe’s fingers shook lifting the lighter to her mouth. Her reflection in the pool water was nothing but a smudge of frantic red, framed by cream pink flowers. 

Without thinking, Minthe spun around and lifted the lighter to the potted plants. Of course her fucking boyfriend put pink flowers where he relieved all his stress. Her fucking boyfriend, not Kore, Persephone, whatever. Hades was her boyfriend. 

She couldn’t have him.

The flowers smoldered, red flames tall in the air. For one glorious moment, the toxicity and violence of the action lifted her up to an ambrosial high-and she didn’t even do that shit. Then like a meteor, she landed back in reality and the gravity of her consequences tugged the skin tight around her bones. 

Hades was going to yell at her. Minthe clenched a cigarette tight in her finger. She would yell back. Her teeth practically bit into the end of it. He would ask her why. The heat burned her mouth. She would ask him why he’d been late. Her lungs choked on the toxic smoke. He’d tell her to answer his question.Minthe sputtered on the exhale. She’d tell him to go to hell. Tears pricked at the corner of her eyes. He’d say he always already there. 

It would be the stupid argument to end all stupid arguments, even worst than the time he’d dumped her over a tube of lipstick. And just like that, Minthe could see the ashes of her relationship slipping through her fingers like burning flower petals. 

This is your fault. The voice sounded like Hera’s, predicting the words the goddess would hiss next time they met. You could’ve waited. He wouldn’t have yelled if you had just waited. 

She didn’t need the queen of the gods rubbing in her mistakes like she was a steak on Tartarus’ Tavern. Minthe took another long drag of her cigarette, and briefly, everything seemed quiet. But another voice joined, smooth and sweet-

I would’ve waited.

The cigarette landed on the tile with a wet splat. Minthe dragged her ash covered fingers through her hair, the wisps of a scream escaping through clenched teeth. These moments made her feel like a bomb. Each new voice criticizing her-from the rulers of this very realm to judgey Fatesbook users-was like another spark to the fuse. Eventually, one would catch. 

Minthe would look like a complete bitch. Everyone would leave her. She’d be left behind to slowly pick up the pieces of herself and an apology for shit she didn’t do would be expected in three to five business days. 

When did her life get so predictable?

When the knock came, Minthe ignored it. Hades always came through the garage. It was probably just some sleazy minor deity, come to shake a business deal out of the god of wealth. She’d leave them to their own impatience. 

It wasn’t until Cerberus bolted past her for the door that Minthe got up to let him in. Worry twisted her empty stomach. If he wasn’t letting himself in, something bad must’ve happened. The triple heads of anxiety, regret, and defensiveness reared within her. 

Cerberus whined, pushing his noses against the base of the entrance. Minthe gave him a soothing pat before opening the door. She expected to see Hades, bruised and bloody. 

She did not expect to see Persephone on the door step, clad in a beautiful white dress with delicate butterflies perched in her hair.  

Minthe immediately moved to close the door, sure this was a nightmare. To her horror, Cerberus pushed the door open with one head and greeted Persephone with his other two. 

Persephone softly cooed to the dog, scratching behind his ears, while Minthe stood there in shock. Anger was forming like lightning in her blood. Professional relationship her ass, Persephone was on Hades’s doorstep, dressed to the nines, while petting his dog like she’d known Cerberus his entire life. This was clearly not the first time she’d stopped by, judging from the way Cerberus eagerly leaned into her touch. 

Panic overtook every emotion in her body. The cold, cruel realization that she was being replaced froze her in place. After everything she’d done, all that she had put in and worked on, and she was losing to a saccharine pink, organic sugar, goddess of gardens.  

No. No, she wouldn’t be replaced. She had done too much for that son of a bitch to be pushed aside for Persephone.

“Hades isn’t home.” Minthe said slowly, lacing each word with venom. “You missed him.”

“I know.” Her voice was annoyingly perfect, just like everything about her. Somewhere between godly loud and mortal high. A stupid combination of good attributes. “I came to pick something up.”

Yeah fucking right. Minthe had to bite the inside of her cheek to keep the words from escaping. “What are you looking for?”

“My mother’s brooch.”

“Why would Hades have your mother’s brooch?” Minthe tried not to seethe but honestly. They’d known each other for a few months and he was holding on to her family heirlooms? Hades could be intense but she’d never seen him be so invested. It pissed her off. 

“I was wearing it the day of my interview.” Persephone replied, eyes finally lifting to meet her own. “I lost it during my foray into Tower Four.”

Oh. That’s why she was here. Despite the truce they’d made, Persephone obviously had her doubts with Minthe, just like she had for her. Only she didn’t have a good lie for showing up to her house with an excuse to snoop. 

Minthe stood back, opening the door for Persephone to step through. “I suppose you don’t want my directions.” She bit out. 

“No, I don’t.” Persephone admitted, briefly cocking her head to study Hades’s grand atrium. It was certainly a sight to behold with its carved marble and pristine tiles but surely nothing that a goddess like her hadn’t seen before. “He said he brought it into the lounge.”

Minthe followed Persephone with no amount of subtly. She paid her no mind, only looking in her direction when Cerberus brushed against her legs. Her eyes widened at the sight of a burning pot of plants but Minthe hissed, “Don’t even think about it,” before she could remark. Wisely, Persephone didn’t. 

Minthe scrutinized her, trying to understand what the hell Hades saw in her. A goddess with large tits and an acceptable face, there were hundreds of those. There had to be something past looks that drew him in-right? Persephone’s pink hair was longer than usual, almost to her feet and tinged with a green that was clearly magic, not box dye. “You might want to get a hair cut before work tomorrow.”

“It doesn’t matter. Tomorrow’s my last day.”

The words came with such finality that Minthe had to wait to make sure they were real. Hard working, humble, studious Persephone was quitting her first non-nepotism job? She had to tamp down a few overly excited questions as Persephone explained. Though Minthe didn’t miss the way her dirt covered fingers curled into fists.

“Hera invited me to her home to do some gardening today,” Of course Persephone was chummy with Hera. Why the hell shouldn’t she be? “But some uninvited, very intoxicated guests showed up.” 

“Hades and his brothers.” 

Persephone snorted. They were walking side by side through the dark halls but Minthe could see the frustration and rage lining the goddess’s features. She didn’t want to admit that she hadn’t been this afraid since they striked their truce, blood red eyes glaring down at her. 

“Poseidon and Zeus had to carry him between themselves. Dio knocked him unconscious.”

Dionysus as well. Was there anyone in the Olympian family not eating out of this woman’s very palm? Hermes had lied to her, her best friend and boyfriend were the twins, and even Hecate defended her. Persephone was just that damn perfect. 

Minthe bit back her own jabs to ask, “Why the hell did Dionysus knock my boyfriend unconscious?” She wasn’t going to drink wine for the next ten years out of spite. 

“I don’t know. He was pretty disoriented when he woke up and we didn’t get to talk much during dinner because Hera and Zeus were-”

“Arguing?”

“Zeus said one thing about the food and Hera took it personally.”

Minthe rolled her eyes. “Not a fan.”

“He’s my creator.” Minthe felt herself go into cardiac arrest. But Persephone winked in what she could only guess was an attempt to be reassuring. “But I wasn’t impressed either. For a king, he’s terrible at first impressions.”

“He’s also bad at talking to anyone he doesn’t want to fuck.” Minthe muttered. Persephone looked like she was wanted to smile through her disgust. 

“I went to the garden to escape them and Hades followed.” Persephone paused in the entrance of the lounge. She seemed to be staring at the stuffed chimera head on the wall. “I asked him why he’s been giving me the cold shoulder at work.”

Minthe had been wondering that too though she’d chalked it up to Hades getting his shit together, taking the hint on how much it bothered her, or both. “What did he say?”

“That he wanted to be professional.” 

Thank Gaea, he was listening. Persephone settled into one of the arm chairs, the crystalline flower brooch clutched in her fingers. Minthe hovered over her shoulder, impatience tainting her voice. “And?”

“I broke down by telling him that I’ve been stressed out by work and not having the brooch all week. Hades told me he was sorry.” Of course, both things Minthe had done to try and get Persephone out of Underworld Co had brought them closer together. “But then I told him about my friend Alex blocking and ghosting me and he got this . . . I’ve never seen that look on him before.” 

Minthe’s curiosity was morbidly piqued. A deep instinct told her what the god of the dead had done, as he loved to do, but another wanted to know exactly what her boyfriend had done to scare her off. “What did he say?”

Persephone was quiet for a long time before she spoke. It was only because Minthe was intimately familiar with the sound that she recognized the goddess was holding back tears. “Hades ripped out Alex’s left eye.” 

This time the words flew out of her mouth without forethought. “What the fuck?”

A quiet sob broke out of Persephone. Through  pink, shimmering tears, she told Minthe the story from the morning after the Panatheana to Persephone’s reaction just hours ago. Which was to bury Hades with a newly grown tree and storm out without another word. 

“I wasn’t leaving without my brooch.” Persephone finished, shoulders slumped. “I’m taking this, turning in my badges tomorrow, and I’ll never be in your life again.” 

It sounded like an apology which pissed Minthe off. She didn’t need sympathy. “Don’t sound so sentimental, Pinkie.” 

Persephone crossed her arms, sniffing softly. “I thought he was my friend.” 

No, no, they were not doing this. They were not going to braid each other’s hair and bitch over boyfriends when Minthe still had one. Hades and her were miserable together. There was no one else for them. If Persephone couldn’t handle a little darkness, she could leave. Nobody was keeping her here. 

“And now?” Minthe needed to hear, for her own reassurance. 

“A part of me still cares for him.” 

Well of course she did. This was lollipop sweet Persephone.  “And the other part?” 

“Wants to punch him in the face again.” 

“Again?” 

Persephone nodded down the hall. “I reacted a little strongly to his presence when I first woke up here.” 

Minthe smiled bitterly. “I won’t stop you.” 

Persephone smiled back, fingers reaching out to squeeze her shoulder. Minthe jerked back and Persephone smiled apologetically. “Thank you, Minthe. This month has probably been really hard for you. You’re such a patient person.” 

She blinked. She didn’t get thanked often and she shook off the warm feeling of appreciation that surged through her at the praise. Minthe had to be the one person who was immune to her charms. “You’re welcome, Persephone.” 

The goddess stared blankly at her. “Kore.” 

“What?” 

“You can call me Kore.” 

One non-hostile conversation had apparently leveled Minthe up to being able to call her the maiden instead of the bringer of death. “Do you want me to call you a psychopomp?” 

“No, I’ll fly home.” Right. Gods didn’t need transportation, they were transportation. As Kore got up, Cerberus happily trailing behind her, she turned around. “I understand if it’s personal, but I am the daughter of Demeter and she taught me to never come in empty handed . . . But I did. Is there anything I can give you in return for welcoming me into your home?” 

Minthe had never been a stickler for tradition but she couldn’t really object to a goddess. “Well, what were you thinking of?” 

“Those flowers?” Kore adjusted the brooch on the collar of her dress. “It’ll only take a second, I swear.” 

Minthe found herself agreeing, telling herself it was only because it was better to erase the problem, even if it was Kore doing’s. But she’d underestimated how much of a mess she left. Shame licked a hot streak up her neck and arms as Kore took in the cigarette butts and lighters. Of course, she didn’t say anything. She was Kore. Minthe reminded herself that that was a bad thing. 

The flowers were still smoldering and with a wiggle of her fingers, the rest of the flowers wilted. 

“Some flower goddess.” 

“For something to grow healthily again, you have to get rid of it’s toxic roots.” Kore smiled, her rosy skin glowing with power. “If I simply made it grow again, it’d wilt again after a few weeks.” 

The petals and stems melted into the dirt, leaving a glowing sheen over the soil. Kore gave a soft hum and new flowers emerged, bright pink and shimmering with life. Kore was smiling to herself proudly and Minthe had to admit, her powers were kind of cool. She was hardworking and intelligent, and if tomorrow was her last day . . . Well, maybe she could enable her computer program again. 

Minthe watched Kore fade into the sky, trails of magic fluttering behind her. Cerberus whined pathetically after her. Minthe scratched between his ears, rolling her eyes. So easily attached. 

Hades still wasn’t home so Minthe busied herself. He wasn’t going to be back for a while if the god of madness and Persephone had gotten to him. She sweeped away the ash and butts and made herself dinner, Cerberus circling her the entire time at the smell. When she sat down to eat, she didn’t pull out her phone and mindlessly scroll Fatesbook. Minthe tried to follow the advice those hippies shilled out of ‘living in the moment’-appreciating the fruits of her labor and the sweet taste of victory. Kore was finally leaving her life at the cost of some photographer’s eye. 

Minthe cringed at the thought. Despite the farce she put on for Kore, violence unsettled her. It was too close to home, the brutal power of the gods that could end her life in a snap. Hera’s face came too mind much too quickly. But Hades could never scare her. She knew him like the back of her hand and a temper was one of the flaws that she’d come to love him for. It was something they had in common. But where Hades had the power to take it out on others physically, she had to settle for subtle digs and schemes. 

Miserable together she thought, wiping her lips with the napkin. That’s the way we want it to be. 

Sitting at the edge of the pool, a glass of water in her hand and some book she hadn’t opened in forever, Minthe felt … Happy. A rarity for her. And when she saw the clusters of new pink flowers behind her, she surprised herself by picking one. Just a small one and her long red tresses hid it well. 

But it was there nonetheless. A little bit of Kore to accompany her as she got ready for the night. Her compliment still buzzed pleasantly beneath her skin, and she was torn between letting it stay or beating it away with a stick. The goddess was leaving, she couldn’t hurt her anymore. And she’d been … Nice, even considering everything Minthe had done. Even she could appreciate such saint like grace. 

A dark voice spoke in her head, a defensive mechanism after so many years alone. She’s just pretending. There are no perfect people. 

Minthe quelled the voice by telling it to fuck off and let her sleep. And she did. Better than she had in a while. 

The flower was still lush with life when she woke up. New soil would keep it like that for a long time. 

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in my opinion, many modern greek retellings/stories inspired by greek mythology don't fail because they're inaccurate. they fail because they have nothing new to say.

i don't mind changes to the original myths, as long as they make sense and they have a narrative purpose! i understand that making changes is sometimes necessary to convey a certain narrative, especially to modern audiences.

is epic the musical mythologically accurate? hell no! but the changes serve to tell a specific story and to convey a certain message. also, epic the musical is self aware about its "inaccuracies". and the music just bangs.

is hadestown accurate? no! does it make the change that I always dread, removing the kidnapping from the hades/persephone myth? yeah. but hadestown is barely about them, and it uses greek mythology as a "narrative frame" to tell a certain story. it has a point. it has a message.

what are stories like lore olympus trying to say? what is the messagge of the hundredth persephone/hades retelling? what are we supposed to take from them? "don't listen to your mother she's a bitch"? "mothers are irrational and you should forsake her for a man"? very feminist.

why are we still doing the medusa "feminist" retellings? it's BEEN done. too many times. and they're ALL the same. it's a worse crime than being bad: they are boring.

i'm tired of retellings that are just "what if this very famous story was THE OPPOSITE and the protagonist was an ASSHOLE the whole time and the villain was MISUNDERSTOOD and the real VICTIM" okay but why. why would that be the case. what's the point of the story you want to tell. or do you just want to use shock value.

of course, i dislike retellings that are so different from the myth that they go AGAINST the spirit/message of the original, because in that case what's even the point of retelling the myth? just tell an original story. but i would take stabbed poseidon and capitalist hades any day over the same basic story of medusa being a girlboss or demeter being bad because of... reasons?

tl;dr: stop being unoriginal and tell a good story. or at least an entertaining one. i beg you

Interesting, I really like this post

i find it funny that one of rachel’s drawings of herself in the afterword that just went up is just fully persephone. is that something she does a lot?

Alright so I've been making it a general rule for myself to like, not harp on Rachel in any way outside of LO as much because frankly the horse is dead now and there's not much left to say outside of what can be analyzed in hindsight. I think despite everything I have to say about her and her work, she still deserves to get away from this nonsense and I don't wanna spend eternity hovering over her shoulder.

But the afterword was posted within the LO series and is clearly meant for readers of LO in the functioning of being an afterword so let's just call it fair game LOL

I will say, on the whole, it does feel very honest and sentimental and I can respect Rachel for taking the time to write out and illustrate her afterword in a way that was personal to both her and her fans. I can understand why she went at it from the angle that she did and I'm not gonna fault her for that.

But there's also something that feels deeply... disingenuous about her approach right from the starting gun. I will say, before I continue, that I'm well aware I am biased towards Rachel as a creator, and I fully acknowledge that I could very well be reading too much into things. This is just my opinion, take it with mountains of salt.

I can get looking back on your own childhood, your past self, whatever, and going "see! it all got better!" because sure! For a lot of creators like Rachel, it must be wild to look back on where they came from and there's a lot of sentimentality on expressing that through an afterword like this where she reflects on where she came from. Though she STILL didn't acknowledge her other comics outside of LO, I can understand if she wants to leave those skeletons in the closet.

But I feel like her drawing herself as a child who's being given an Eisner by her adult self and all that just feels like some gross attempt to disarm any criticism of her because "don't make fun of me, I'm just a sad lonely baby girl!"

She's not a child. Child Rachel didn't grossly misappropriate Greek myth into their own self-indulged vanity project. Child Rachel didn't claim herself a folklorist of a culture's works only to bastardize them completely. Child Rachel didn't create a hostile environment within her fanbase by bullying anyone who she perceived as a threat, sneaking into critical spaces to try and cause trouble, and writing her own clapbacks into her comic. Child Rachel didn't claim to be challenging misogyny and purity culture only to reinforce misogyny and purity culture through her own self-insert baby-virgin-gets-rescued-by-rich-tycoon power fantasy that regularly glorified abuse towards women and the lower class.

30-almost-40-year-old Rachel did though.

At best it comes across as really cringe sentimentality from a Greek-weeb (heh, greeboo) and goes to show how much Rachel inserted herself into Greek myth without ever absorbing its messages or cultural contexts, it was all about her and her feelings as a sad New Zealand girl with dyslexia who thought Persephone's story was about another sad girl being rescued from her "horrible childhood".

At worst it's an active attempt to play on people's heartstrings by drawing herself as a child who people will naturally not want to criticize. I don't want to assume she's doing it intentionally, I really don't want to leave her afterword on a bad foot, as I can definitely understand as both a creator and a person who struggled with learning disabilities in their own childhood how and why she wants to pay homage to her past and where she came from... but let's just say, as someone who's also gotten way too "lost in the sauce" concerning personal self-reflective projects, I think there's a lot to say about how this confirms that Rachel made LO entirely for herself, about herself, without any actual intention to respect the original myths, because she never truly separated them from herself when she was a child. And, in my humble opinion as someone who has Been There with the self-insert OC's and self-reflective angsty plotlines, I can fully attest to the fact that that's not fucking healthy. Even with personal projects, you NEED to learn to get your head out of the sauce, you NEED to learn to objectively separate yourself from the narrative so the story doesn't fall apart under your own hubris and ego, you NEED to learn to draw a line if you want to have any sort of identity as a human being outside of what you make for people. And that's with just normal original stories, this was a story based on Greek myth which doesn't belong to her.

And this goes for a lot of the things she's said and done in the past, so much of her own "sources" even are tethered to things that she read / watched in her childhood and only vaguely remembers, as if she never mentally left her childhood at all, which just... if the point was to highlight her past and the traumas she went through and how they contributed to her present, an Eisner isn't going to validate those experiences. And drawing attention to her past through the lens of her childhood self absolutely 100% does not absolve her of the negative effect her work has had on the modern Greek myth zeitgeist nor the things she's said and done as a 38 year old woman who should absolutely know better.

The community she entered and took from will forever remain changed by her influence and taking, in many ways not for the better. She has the privilege of walking away and never having to think about it again, with all the awards and accolades that were bought for her, the bravado that she built around being a "folklorist" with zero credentials, and the platform she was given over many other creators struggling to even be heard.

That "place" she claims to have now was built entirely on inserting herself into another culture's works and doing nothing but taking, taking, taking, while offering nothing in return but vanity and lip service. That "place" was paid for and brought to you by Webtoons.

No comment, But it is true