Dare I Say....the Dungeon Menshi Fandom Is Racist Towards Toshiro (don't Shoot The Messenger)

Dare i say....the dungeon menshi fandom is racist towards Toshiro (don't shoot the messenger)

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9 months ago

A few months ago i made a post about Sansa and Arya and how their relationship is pretty normal for siblings (specifically sister) and how the rivalry their stans have is fucking stupid. No matter how people wanna spin it Arya and Sansa are literally children, they didn't even go through puberty before being separated, people cry and whine "Sansa did this" "Arya did that" but it's not really something i take seriously or which i blame either of the girls for and people are still under the fighting about who's more evil.

People want to make Sansa to be this evil woman who pushed Arya under the bus and got someone killed when the blame lies solely with Joffrey and Cersei or people want to act like Arya is straight up unfeeling that should act like a lady and everything is her fault. Sansa was a bully to Arya and Arya wasn't exactly nice to Sansa either, that's the truth they were children put against each other by societal norms, if you want someone to blame, blame their parents.


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1 year ago

? I'm confused why you linked me this i know Sansa and Arya don't get along but I'm not talking about them i'm talking about their stans that are taking sibling rivalry too far. Sansa and Arya are little children and sisters don't get along sometimes it's normal it's the fandom that puts them against each more than they should, we should want them to resolve their problems with each other and actually get along not cry about how these children are mean to each other. We know they love each other deeply so i don't get why the fandom is always fighting about their relationship 🧍‍♀️

This whole Sansa vs Arya shit always makes me laugh, "Sansa bullied Arya" bruh my sister used to call me a fucking whale and i used to make fun of her teeth cuz she had kind bunny like front teeth it's normal for CHILDREN who are also SIBLINGS to make fun of each other "Uuuh but Jeyne Poole also made fun of Arya" I'm a younger sibling my sister and her friend did not want me around when they were together and would usually tease me to make me leave because guess what? They were children that did not want a random ass kid in their business (and they were older than both Sansa and Jeyne). Arya teases and makes fun of Sansa too y'all i promise you that shit ain't that deep, we literally know that they love and care deeply for each so this whole rivalry y'all got going on needs to stop cuz it's getting embarrassing this girls are between the ages of like 8-11 please stop trying to make them out to be bad people, they are children and children are selfish and assholes sometimes doesn't mean they're evil


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11 months ago

Personally, I'm not blaming Mu Qing because he left his friends to take care of his mother. The issue is the way he left. There is nothing to do with him being poor whatsoever.. You can take care of your mother and check on your friend once in a while... I don't know, just saying... Anyway, what's done is done. You don't know how you'll react yourself until you're faced with the situation. And since he's very bad at communicating and expressing his feelings, it makes things worse

To be honest i don't care if someone doesn't reach out because they are taking care of their dying mother


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1 year ago

I've been thinking a lot lately about how Kabru deprives himself.

The official description of Kabru's room, which reads: "Kabru rents the basement of a tavern on the Island. It's dark, cold, noisy, and really not a comfortable place to live, but Kabru isn't home much, and he seems happy with it. The room has almost none of his personal possessions in it: the shelves are packed tightly with liquor barrels and bottles. There seems to be a figure of the winged lion on the table....
A cropped image from the official color illustration of Kabru's rented room, showing a top-down view of a desk cluttered with books and papers and a few other items. Kabru is seated at the desk with his arms folded on the surface and his head dropped into his arms, his face hidden. It's unclear whether he has fallen asleep while working, if he's having a somber moment, or if he's crying.

Kabru as a character is intertwined with the idea that sometimes we have to sacrifice the needs of the few for the good of the many. He ultimately subverts this first by sabotaging the Canaries and then by letting Laios go, but in practice he's already been living a life of self-sacrifice.

Saving people, and learning the secrets of the dungeons to seal them, are what's important. Not his own comforts. Not his own desires. He forces them down until he doesn't know they're there, until one of them has to come spilling out during the confession in chapter 76.

Specifically, I think it's very significant, in a story about food and all that it entails, that Kabru is rarely shown eating. He's the deuteragonist of Dungeon Meshi, the cooking manga, but while meals are the anchoring points of Laios's journey, given loving focus, for Kabru, they're ... not.

A cropped color image of Kabru from a side comic, drawn in a simplified sketchy style, showing him slightly hunched over with a dull-eyed expression and his hand over his belly. Text reads: "Come to think of it, I haven't eaten since yesterday."

I'm sure he eats during dungeon expeditions, in the routine way that adventurers must when they sit down to camp. But on the surface, you get the idea that Kabru spends most of his time doing his self-assigned dungeon-related tasks: meeting with people, studying them, putting together that evidence board, researching the dungeon, god knows what else. Feeding himself is secondary.

He's introduced during a meal, eating at a restaurant, just to set up the contrast between his party and Laios's. And it's the last normal meal we see him eating until the communal ending feast (if you consider Falin's dragon parts normal).

First, we get this:

A pair of black and white panels from Dungeon Meshi chapter 31. The first panel shows Rin and Kabru facing away from the viewer, looking out over the water and ruins of the fourth level. Rin is standing and holding her mage staff while Kabru sits beside her. The second panel is identical, but Rin says, "I'm hungry." Kabru responds without looking at her, "...Being revived does make you hungry, doesn't it?"

Kabru's response here is such a non-answer, it strongly implies to me that he wasn't thinking about it until Rin brought it up. That he might not even be feeling the hunger signals that he logically knew he should.

They sit down to eat, but Kabru is never drawn reaching for food or eating it like the rest of his party. He only drinks.

A crop from a black and white panel of Dungeon Meshi chapter 32. Mickbell is in the foreground with his profile partially facing the viewer, chewing on a piece of bread with crumbs around his mouth. Kabru sits opposite him, facing the viewer, and raising a wooden cup of wine to his lips.

It's possible this means nothing, that we can just assume he's putting food in his mouth off-panel, but again, this entire manga is about food. Cooking it, eating it, appreciating it, taking pleasure in it, grounding yourself in the necessary routine of it and affirming your right to live by consuming it. It's given such a huge focus.

We don't see him eat again until the harpy egg.

A pair of black and white panels from chapter 38 of Dungeon Meshi, showing close ups of Laios (right) and Kabru (left) as they face each other. Laios, wide-eyed as if he's just realized something, asks, "Aren't you hungry?" Kabru, also wide-eyed but looking taken aback, says, "Huh?"

What a significant question for the protagonist to ask his foil in this story about eating! Aren't you hungry? Aren't you, Kabru?

A single black and white panel from Dungeon Meshi chapter 38. Laios is about to move off-panel, and he's looking over his shoulder at Kabru, saying, "When you're revived after losing that much blood, you feel like you're starving. Give me a minute." Kabru stares after him in the background, still looking nonplussed.

He was revived only minutes ago after a violent encounter. And then he chokes down food that causes him further harm by triggering him, all because he's so determined to stay in Laios's good graces.

In his flashback, we see Milsiril trying to spoon-feed young Kabru cake that we know he doesn't like. He doesn't want to eat: he wants to be training.

A cropped pair of black and white panels from Dungeon Meshi chapter 61. The right shows Milsiril happily holding up a piece of elven cake on a fork. Her speech bubble says, "Aaaah." On the left she pushes the cake against the cheek of a young Kabru, whose eyes are closed in growing frustration as he tries to ignore the food. He says, "I told you...."
A black and white panel from Dungeon Meshi chapter 61, showing Milsiril, seated at young Kabru's bedside, holding out the plate of cake. She says, "You still need to rest." Kabru, seated on the bed and losing his temper, starts to pull at the bandage around his head. He says: "I just got a little scraped up! Forget this! Start training me with a sword again!"

Then with Mithrun, we see him eating the least-monstery monster food he can get his hands on, for the sake of survival- walking mushroom, barometz, an egg. The barometz is his first chance to make something like an a real meal, and he actually seems excited about it because he wants to replicate a lamb dish his mother used to make him!

A single black and white panel from chapter 62 of Dungeon Meshi. It's a close up of Kabru holding out a bowl of hot food and smiling a little. He says, "It's been ages since I had it, so I can't wait. I hope you like it."

...but he doesn't get to enjoy it like he wanted to.

A cropped black and white panel from chapter 62 of Dungeon Meshi, showing simplified versions of Mithrun and Kabru eating. Mithrun's speech bubble says, "It tastes like crab." Kabru responds, "It does, doesn't it."

Then, when all the Canaries are eating field rations ... Kabru still isn't shown eating. He's only shown giving food to Mithrun.

A pair of black and white panels from chapter 66 of Dungeon Meshi. In the top panel, Kabru holds out a plate of travel rations to Mithrun, who is staring off into the distance with a determined expression. Kabru remarks, with a slightly exasperated look, "Ignoring me, hm?" while his speech bubble says, "Unless you eat, you won't defeat the demon." In the lower panel, Mithrun turns and accepts the food.

And of course the next time he eats is the bavarois, which for his sake is at least plant based ... but he still has to use a coping mechanism to get through it.

A cropped black and white panel from chapter 73 of Dungeon Meshi, showing a close up of Kabru as he chews with a blank look on his face. His thought bubbles show that he is reciting the names of all "the world's major cities" in his head.

I don't think Kabru does this all on purpose. I think Kui does this all on purpose. Kabru's Post Traumatic Stress Disorder should be understood as informing his character just as much as Laios's autism informs his. It's another way that Kabru and Laios act as foils: where Laios takes pleasure in meals and approaches food with the excitement of discovery, Kabru's experiences with eating are tainted by his trauma. Laios indulges; Kabru denies himself. Laios is shown enjoying food, Kabru is shown struggling with it.

And I can very easily imagine a reason why Kabru might have a subconscious aversion towards eating.

A black and white panel from chapter 45 of Dungeon Meshi, showing Kabru's memory of the destruction of Utaya. In the foreground is a snarling monster that still retains humanoid features, half man, half beast. Kabru's speech bubble reads: "It was because the dead became monsters that devoured the living."
A cropped black and white panel from chapter 38 of Dungeon Meshi, depicting scenes from the destruction of Utaya. A pair of figures in elven Canary armor pull Kabru's child self away from his mother's dead body as he screams for her. There is a close up of snarling monsters tearing into human flesh.

Meals are the privilege of the living.

A black and white panel from chapter 53 of Dungeon Meshi, showing Kabru staring in the distance with an expression of growing horror, against a mental backdrop of countless lifeless bodies stretching out into darkness, and a river of blood. The onomatopoeia for 'shiver' is written over him.

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1 year ago

Bro what 😭 their issues is that they have different views in life and that their put against each other because of the world misoginistic standards, they have different views and that's normal, they fight because of said views but their fights are extremely childish because neither truly understood the seriousness of it all, fighting over childish things and serious is NORMAL between siblings, fights are NORMAL everything that happens between Sansa and Arya is a realistic depiction of two siblings not getting along as CHILDREN which is NORMAL💀. Once again families don't always get along, siblings fight and siblings say mean things to each other in said fights and all of that is normal because it's literally how every relationship goes, sometimes you fight with your loved ones, sometimes you hurt each other with words the point is to get past it, Sansa and Arya are children their fights are childish and they never truly meant to cause each other harm because they did not understand what that would mean, they are both sheltered little kids for the love of god 😭

This whole Sansa vs Arya shit always makes me laugh, "Sansa bullied Arya" bruh my sister used to call me a fucking whale and i used to make fun of her teeth cuz she had kind bunny like front teeth it's normal for CHILDREN who are also SIBLINGS to make fun of each other "Uuuh but Jeyne Poole also made fun of Arya" I'm a younger sibling my sister and her friend did not want me around when they were together and would usually tease me to make me leave because guess what? They were children that did not want a random ass kid in their business (and they were older than both Sansa and Jeyne). Arya teases and makes fun of Sansa too y'all i promise you that shit ain't that deep, we literally know that they love and care deeply for each so this whole rivalry y'all got going on needs to stop cuz it's getting embarrassing this girls are between the ages of like 8-11 please stop trying to make them out to be bad people, they are children and children are selfish and assholes sometimes doesn't mean they're evil


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1 year ago

Daily reminder that Noah Schnapp is a Zionist 🤓☝️ he went around giving out "Zionism is sexy" stickers


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1 year ago

I need someone to draw all the foxes as children, please it's need 😭🙏🙏🙏🙏


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10 months ago
yayawantstodraw - Yaya

Just a question out of curiosity: What drew you in to SethoScara?


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9 months ago

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