Malice Mizer
"Let’s Play with Wax Figures!!!"
February 24, 2000 – Tokyo Tower Wax Museum
Mana sama dressed in a new black outfit from Moi-même-Moitié (the brand by none other than Mana-sama himself) and i ventured to the Tokyo Tower Wax Museum. The last time i visited here was in elementary school. I vaguely recall being terrified of the "Western Torture Room." Well guess what, it’s still here! This room set up to prevent people from forgetting the horrors humans once inflicted on each other is full of grotesque displays. The background music is ominous enhancing the sense of dread. Ten minutes in here and you’d go mad! As i felt my spirits sinking i glanced over at Mana-sama, who was completely unfazed. I asked, "Doesn’t this make you feel sick?" Mana sama replied calmly, "Not at all." "I've been interested in things like this since i was young and i used to read books like The Encyclopedia of Torture." (Mana)… The Encyclopedia of Torture! There really are all kinds of books in this world.
Aside from the torture chamber the museum is packed with wax figures of rock musicians and movie stars. When i suggested, "Maybe it would be fun to take some rock inspired photos," Mana sama even tried to climb over the railing to pose with the figure of Deep Purple (a British hard rock band active mainly in the 1970s). Suddenly… BEEP! An alarm went off! Mana sama also took photos with Julia Roberts from Pretty Woman and Arnold Schwarzenegger as the Terminator. For “unreleased” photos he posed with Venus and Bacchus. Mana sama you naughty thing! …Or so i thought but Mana sama was quick to say, "Make sure to mention that I wasn’t actually touching her chest!" to avoid any misunderstanding.
Drifting into the Mysterious Space of the Future
In June, Malice Mizer will release their first-ever video work, "sans retour Voyage 'dernière' encore une fois." This piece, labeled as a digest version of their final indie live performance at Shibuya Public Hall on April 1st, serves as the subject of this interview. Additionally, we will explore the truth behind their upcoming summer standing tour, "Pays de merveilles."
Interview & Text by Yuki Sugie
— Some time has passed, but how was the final performance of "sans retour Voyage dernière encore une fois" at Shibuya Public Hall for you as members?
Mana: Shibuko (Shibuya Public Hall) has about twice the capacity of Seinenkan (Japan Youth Hall), but surprisingly, it didn’t feel that much bigger. One thing I do remember clearly, though, is that during my solo dance corner, I wore platform heels for the first time in a while, and it was a real struggle.
— Walking in them is hard enough, but dancing in them must have been nearly impossible, right?
Közi: In Osaka, I kept falling over by myself multiple times.
Mana: Here I was, striking a perfect pose, looking all cool, and then right next to me, Közi kept rolling around on the floor.
Camui Gackt: (From the stage, visually, it did look a bit small.)
Mana: I heard that because the building is old, the seating arrangement is much tighter than in modern venues, which makes it feel smaller.
Gackt: Even the stage itself felt pretty cramped when standing on it. But still, I had the real sense that we had moved forward compared to our Seinenkan live. That said, it’s already in the past. Right now, I can only think about what’s ahead. We have to keep improving and pushing forward. After all, if we finish a live and think, “Ah, that was great,” and feel completely satisfied, isn’t that the end?
Közi: Wait, does that mean we’re already done? (laughs)
Kami: Apparently so. (laughs)
Well, each member probably has their own way of interpreting things.
Kami: For me, performing at Shibuko was something I had wanted to do for a long time. But once the live started, I became so immersed in the performance itself that I didn’t even think about it. Also, personally, I wasn’t satisfied with the Osaka show at all because of various mental struggles at the time. But at Shibuko, I was able to overcome that, so in that sense, I felt good about it. Of course, performance-wise, I still have a long way to go, but mentally, it was a big improvement for me.
Gackt: That day, Kami had an amazing expression on his face. His intensity was on another level.
Kami: Yeah, by the end, I was really moved. Since my drum set was on the second level of the stage, I was at eye level with the second-floor audience. Towards the end, when the lights illuminated the audience and I could see their faces clearly, I got a little emotional.
— I see. Also, during your drum solo, the glowing drumsticks made their first appearance, right?
Kami: Yeah, that was great! …Wait, they actually glowed well?
— Yes, they shined very brightly.
Kami: Oh, really? (laughs)
— And Közi, how was it for you?
Közi: It was such a long time ago that I’ve already started forgetting things. (laughs)
(Everyone laughs.)
Mana: In that scene where we were expressing the “eros of a confined space,” if you had fallen over, it would have been a disaster. (laughs)
— But you managed to stay on your feet at Shibuko, right?
Közi: It was really difficult, though.
— Speaking of difficult things, Yuki, you had a flying scene that day (as mentioned in last month’s live report). Wasn’t that scary?
Yu~ki: I’m not really a fan of heights. We did it in both Osaka and Tokyo, but since I wasn’t used to it, my stomach was in knots the whole time.
— I can imagine! That sounds intense. (laughs)
Yu~ki: I was in a “Hurry up and lower me down!” state. You know, it felt kind of like those pirate ship rides at amusement parks.
— Like Flying Pirates or Viking rides?
Yu~ki: Exactly! Those things make me super nervous.
Gackt: Ah, so it felt like the excitement of a first love?
— Uh… I think that’s a different kind of nervousness. (laughs)
Gackt: Oh, it’s different? Hmm. But for me, riding roller coasters brings back memories of my first love.
— What kind of first love did you have, Gackt?! (laughs)
Gackt: Well, when you’re on those rides, doesn’t it feel amazing? Is that weird?
Yu~ki: I can’t handle them at all. I’m the type who turns pale and breaks into a cold sweat after getting off. (laughs)
— And yet, you still decided to fly on stage at Shibuko?
Yu~ki: Yeah… Somehow, before I knew it, it was just happening. (laughs) But really, everyone worked hard that day.
Mana:
At the final stage of merveilles i felt like I saw a light within myself. Or rather i sensed it. I thought that might be an easier way to express it. But in reality... You’d think it came across clearly.
Gackt:
When it comes to live performances, ones that are carefully constructed, i sometimes wonder is that really okay? Of course it's not like it’s 100% perfect. Also you're always aware of the camera. I'd like to try using it more intentionally. Definitely.
Back during the live video Voyage, there were parts I just couldn’t be satisfied with. It wasn’t like we were consciously shaping the footage ourselves. You can really tell the difference between when you're aware of the camera and when you're not. Compared to that, this time we had more cameras and various new elements.
Actually, when it comes to balance, that one buffer, how we manage that, really matters. Promotion video technology has come a long way too. But honestly, I think it might be better to break the whole concept a little more. That’s just my personal view.
There's this assumption that everything is going to be captured on camera. But if I were allowed, I'd like to try breaking away from that. I wonder if that would really be okay. Still it’s not that easy.
The current situation with MALICE MIZER makes it even harder. To capture their live performances, we really have to think about where to put the cameras and how many to use. There are people who can’t see MALICE MIZER live. For them, video becomes the only window in.
So as a way to give them that experience, I’d love to just place cameras and film a live. Without overthinking it, maybe even using 200 cameras. But in the end, what we always struggle with is how to shoot the stage without interfering with it. Maybe we didn’t fully utilize some of the camera angles either. Fundamentally, there are things that cameras simply aren’t meant to capture.
- WHAT's IN? Pictorial ワッツインピクトリアル 1998年7月
All the photo credits to kamitribute
I did a translation on this magazine. If you'd like to correct me please feel free! I hope you enjoy!
"I want you to open your heart and feel. I believe that as humans, there are moments when we can feel something and change ourselves due to unexpected triggers..."
MALICE MIZER
Human Science High Sciety Syndrome
— I’ve lived this way. That’s why, after entering society and starting MALICE MIZER, I feel like I began to think about humanity. The more I think about it, the more negative I feel. Yuki, you’ve had a bit of experience as a salaryman, right?
Yu~ki: Ah, but at that time, I was surrounded by really good people, so I was very fortunate. I feel like my life has always been supported by wonderful people. However, once I entered society, I started to feel the difference between the adult world I envisioned as a child and reality. While I understand that people have their own circumstances, there were times I became almost socially anxious with each encounter. But with MALICE MIZER, there are moments when closing myself off from the world allows for better expression.
— Being blessed by people, does that mainly refer to the members?
Yu~ki: That’s right, of course.
— What about you, Kozi?
Ko: I’m very grateful. As a child, I liked sci-fi manga, and I was thinking of talking about that. However, I recently realized that the reason I started pondering questions like, "What is humanity?" is rooted in something different. It’s about dreams.
— You mean the dreams you have while sleeping?
Ko: Yes, yes. I keep having dreams with similar scenarios, so I started to wonder why. I believe dreams make us conscious of what lies in our subconscious. What exists in our subconscious is likely suppressed by our daily lives. For example, as a baby, I would cry when I was hungry, unable to suppress my desires. But as I grew older, I learned to control myself. I think that the raw essence of my consciousness is suppressed and exists in the unconscious.
— By the way, Kozi, you mentioned that you were attention-seeking in elementary school, right?
Ko: Yes, I wanted to be the star of the school play. I was also the sports committee president (laughs). I think over the years, I became more suppressed and turned into a darker person.
— In MALICE MIZER, do you think you’re trying to liberate that suppressed unconscious?
Ko: Perhaps that aspect is there. — Lastly, I’d like to reflect on the history of MALICE MIZER's performances in terms of expressing " What is humanity?"
— What kind of discussions did you have among the members?
M: Things like the flow of time—past, present, future. Is destiny predetermined? Where is the end of the universe? That sort of thing.
Ko: We used to talk about these things naturally back then.
M: Yeah, it wasn’t like, "Shall we discuss this?
— Were there expressions of "What is humanity?" in your indie-era stage performances? Perhaps in the opening?
M: Hmm, yes, in the live shows...
Ko: I put my heart into the openings (laughs). In the early days, everyone was still playing their instruments properly, so there was only the opening where we would come out empty-handed.
M: When we performed at Shinjuku Loft (a live house), in the opening, the three of us, Kozi, Kami and Yu~ki came on stage suddenly and started fighting. Of course, there was music playing in the background.
— What were you specifically trying to express with that?
M: That’s a really difficult question. Just try to imagine it (laughs).
— I kind of get it...
M: Also, in the opening, I would pull Yu~ki, who was chained, onto the stage and whip him. Yu~ki looked cold and frightened, like a doll.
— That sounds like SM play.
M: We expressed "What is humanity?" in the world of SM. At that time, we didn’t really have any happy performances. The name MALICE MIZER...
— It comes from malice and tragedy, right?
M: So, we’re trying to express the malice and tragedy that lurks deep within humanity, which is why there are many cruel elements.
— Chains were one of your signature techniques, right?
M: Also blood (laughs). In the early days, we used paint for that, but it evolved over time. We were constantly experimenting with detailed performances, setups, and stage designs from our indie days, leading to the wonderful stages of MALICE MIZER today.
Ko: It’s true that our past is what brought us to where we are now, but we’re still in the middle of experimentation. Our attitude of always trying to create something new will continue.
M: There’s no end to it. The audience is also a part of creating our stage. So I want them to open their hearts and watch and feel. I believe there are moments when people can feel something and change themselves due to unexpected triggers. I, too, didn’t know what I should do as a teenager, but I was able to change because of a certain trigger, and I sometimes receive letters from fans saying the same. I would be happy if MALICE MIZER’s CDs or live shows could serve as that trigger."
MALICE MIZER
"Rest of the aristocrats! Fans capture exclusive photos!! A new charm brimming in their post-concert appearance.
Please take a look at their rare unseen moments of rest.
The photo was given to me by a friend who used to follow Malice around back then. It’s from when i was just getting to know Malice so i couldn’t tell who was who without makeup. I even wrote their names on the back of the photo (lol). Looking back i realize how incredibly rude that was."
-As usual when i interview MALICE MIZER my mind starts to dry up a bit (laughs).
Gackt: If you don’t get caught up in rigid notions or long held beliefs i think a lot can be understood. People attach years to the concept of time for clarity but that’s just a human made record for our convenience, not a true representation of time itself.
- Is it that before crossing or not crossing the sky, it was never something that was defined in the first place?
Gackt: I wonder? Also, within this album, various characters and shapes come to light but i believe it’s important to note that everything is linked in some form.
-However, this album really delves deeply into everything from the concepts to the sounds.
Gackt: The sound is so rich that we didn’t have enough channels. Even in parts of the songs we didn’t touch on in this interview there're various mechanisms woven into the fabric.
Gackt: Rather than mechanisms everything is inevitably included.
-It’s quite a niche no, a freaky endeavor, isn’t it?
Kozi: That’s MALICE MIZER’s characteristic after all.
Gackt: It can’t be helped. The people creating this are all quite freaky. After working on this album i realized something: discussions about MALICE MIZER often tend to concentrate on visual performances.
Mana: That might be true. But it’s more than that. It’s not limited to visual aspects; we aim to enhance our world in every way possible through all the elements we can use to create. This album made that very clear.
Gackt: Absolutely. Well, since our appearance is what it is i can understand why people would focus on visuals whether they say it’s impressive or over the top. However for MALICE MIZER we want to express our thoughts through sound and stage in all aspects, so if they can understand that it’s great. Of course i believe that in this album the individual growth and evolution as a collective are clearly represented. Given that it’s natural for the quality to rise.
-By the way, will there be any continued performances of "Bois de merveilles" in the future?
Mana: Who knows? (laughs)
Kozi: It’s too precious to just give away (laughs). I think there might be a performance around the next show though.
Gackt: I can’t say anything just yet.
Kozi: Plus performing the songs from this album live requires extensive preparation. They’re so intricate!
Gackt: Regardless MALICE MIZER inherently has the characteristic of deliberately taking a perplexing path.
- I think this has been discussed many times before but can you share your thoughts heading toward the final performance?
Gackt: Just remember that beginnings and endings are always back to back.
Mana: That’s right, everyone, please give it your all and feel it.
Yu~ki: Look forward to it.
Kozi: Absolutely!
Mana: What’s that in reference to?
Kozi: Well...
Gackt: What should I do? If it’s to myself (laughs).
I did a translation of this interview. I hope you enjoy 🦋
Gackt: "You know, I can look someone in the eye and say, 'You're beautiful' (in a deep voice like Gackt's) even if it's the first time we're meeting (laughs)."
KO: "That's a very foreigner-like attitude."
Y: "Exactly. The way he delivers his lines perfectly fits his character. In a way, he's a dangerous person... ah, so scary, so scary (laughs)."
Everyone: (bursting out in laughter)
Y: "Honestly, I'm jealous. How many more encounters would I have if I could start conversations like that? I'll try my best."
M: "Well, isn't he the guy who gives off the most seductive male pheromones? (laughs). In fact, when I'm on stage with him, I'm just mesmerized. 'Ah, so this is the pheromone he's emitting...' (laughs)."
KO: "You both seem to be mesmerized by each other (laughs)."
M: "He just makes you feel all sorts of things. You're practically ravished with his eyes. I totally get why women are so taken with him. ♪I want to hold you tight and sleep♪ I experience it firsthand when I'm hugged on stage (laughs)."
Y: "Next time, let's sell Gackt's pheromone-infused perfume (laughs). We could advertise it in magazines with a tagline like, 'This will attract women to you,' and it would be a hit (←completely convinced)."
KO: "Hahahahahaha!! (bursting out in laughter)"
KA: "He always stays calm and gives answers that hit the mark. I always think that's amazing. I'm also envious of how he can do anything. I think he feels a sense of aesthetics in creating himself through every gesture. But if I were to point out one thing, it's that if you keep saying 'thank you' over and over it might be hard to tell which one is sincere. That's the risk."
Gackt: "I'm always grateful, though (laughs)."
KO: "He's quick-witted, and like KAMI said, he can handle pretty much anything. He can even ravish a woman with his eyes."
Gackt: (laughs)
KO: "That's why I try not to make too much eye contact with him, or I'll turn to stone (laughs). There's something strangely persuasive about his eyes and words. His daily life is quite mysterious (laughs)."
Interviewer: "So, what is the common ground between these five unique individuals?"
Gackt: "A sense of uniqueness, loneliness, creativity, a strong desire not to lose..."
KA: "Including all of that, I think it's destiny. The five of us are the 'chosen ones'..."
Gackt: "The chosen ones? (laughs)"
KO: "KAMI is actually a god (laughs)! (←Note: this is where you laugh)"
~ End ~
“There are many things to do when returning to love. While we dive underground and study you all feel various things at home! So when we meet again, please look forward to what MALICE MIZER will be like. I am truly happy to have met you all in this arena!”
“Brise” and then, “au revoir.” The stage was illuminated with blue lighting, creating a beautiful scene. The last number was “ma cherie.” The audience joined in singing the call and response of “Ma Cherie.” KAMI, who had been relentlessly playing the drums, surprisingly engaged with the audience from the stage and at his signal the grand chorus of “Ma Cherie” erupted once again. Silver streamers burst from both sides of the stage and the main performance concluded with a united front of the audience and the five members.
And then the encore. The encore was a grand performance that decorated the finale of this tour. KAMI, YU~KI, KOZI and MANA appeared one after the other, each adorned with large wings. Their gorgeous costumes were worth seeing on their own. And then, at the end, Gackt spread his black wings and descended from above the set. It was breathtaking! The song was “Le ciel,” a single scheduled for release on September 30. Finally, in the center of the stage, Gackt spread his arms and looked up to the heavens, causing the star sphere set high above the stage to shine all at once across the entire width of the hall. Oh! It was truly a star filled sky! The dynamic ending evoked a wave of emotion. I felt like giving a tremendous round of applause to the members as they quietly disappeared from the stage.
The blend of musicality, theatricality, and various elements at different moments is what makes their stage interesting. If not done well, it could easily turn into a jumbled and unmanageable situation, but MALICE MIZER skillfully connected the delicate pieces, showing a unique space. And what they will show us next is completely unpredictable. That’s why you absolutely want to see what comes next. Yes, MALICE MIZER is quite dangerous.
MALICE MIZER
"Bara no Konrei"
The Promise Made at Midnight
An Exclusive Look at MALICE MIZER’s Debut and First Lead Role in a Movie
TEXT: KIMIKO KKM MASUBUCHI
An exquisite, beautiful, and aesthetic world set in medieval Europe. Anyone who has even once glimpsed the world of Malice Mizer would have sensed that a moment would come when they would make their screen debut. I, too, am one of those people. And finally that moment has arrived and in a spectacular way as both their debut and their first lead role.
The movie, The Promise Made at Midnight: The Wedding of Roses, explores themes captured in its tagline: “The forbidden decadence of pleasure not meant to be seen or touched.” It is a gothic fantasy of humans and vampires, searching for eternal love and beauty. This film is intertwined with the world Malice Mizer has developed over years of musical activity with the soundtrack featuring songs primarily from the album Merveilles. This feature flowing through the entire film is an essential element that gives it a distinctive character. The film’s style reminiscent of films from a bygone era reflects the reverence for their music.
One of the most surprising aspects is the casting. The characters are tailored to each band member’s unique persona so their passionate performances feel natural even to those familiar with Malice Mizer. While musicians appearing in movies do not always add depth to their musical activities this work offers both longtime fans and newcomers a way to see Malice Mizer in a new light as a continuation of their journey.
TEXT: YUKI SUGIE
An endless dream. Endless loneliness, endless sorrow. This is a story of “eternity,” portrayed in deep contrasts between midnight black and blood red beginning in silence and unfolding dramatically.
One of the most striking elements of The Promise Made at Midnight is its use of a talkie-style classical technique and the bold casting of Malice Mizer. Director Takehara captivated by their unique presence and charisma, wrote the screenplay himself. This project, a massive collaborative work between Takehara’s vision and Malice Mizer, a group that has pursued a distinct aesthetic rooted in tragic beauty has produced something truly one of a kind.
Kozi’s presence embodies the conflicts and challenges of reimagining a vampire archetype, capturing the role with precision. Mana, with his enigmatic mannerisms holds a crucial key to the film’s complex storyline. Yu~ki with his remarkable performance as a vampire seems almost born for this role. Whether as actors or actresses, their presence will certainly draw viewers into a surreal, hypnotic world.
This world is one that only Malice Mizer could bring to life. Eventually, the night gives way to dawn, and the story reaches a pivotal moment. What will bring salvation, and what will be the source of tragedy? What was “fate,” and what was inevitable? I hope you find the answers to these questions in your own heart.
February 23, 1997, Clear skies
FC (Fan Club) Exclusive Event
HAPPY BIRTHDAY KAMI - 17,432 Days Left Until Extinction Commemoration
Strawberry Picking and Hato Bus Tour
So, we went on the Hato Bus Tour. It's a bit late, but here's a report on the event. The schedule was:
8:00 AM: Meet in Shinjuku
8:40 AM: Departure
Trip to Nagatoro Town in Saitama Prefecture, where we visited Hodosan to view the plum blossoms (we took the ropeway).
Lunch at Seibu Nagatoro Hotel.
Then, we went strawberry picking in Chichibu City, Saitama Prefecture.
We returned to Shinjuku at 6:00 PM.
Of course Kami and all the members seemed to have a great time. As for everyone who participated… there's no need to say anything more, right? Now, please enjoy along with the photos.
Here’s the ropeway we rode that day (edited by Közi). It’s called "Monkey No. 1". It was super comfortable (Kami). - Photo 1 top left
Yes, everyone, this is the Ume Hyakka-en (Plum Hundred Flowers Garden). Please don’t lag behind and follow along! (Mana) - Photo 2 top right
To my beloved…MaCheri - Photo 4 bottom right
In front of MaCheri - Photo 3 bottom left
As you can see from the two photos above, the “MaCheri” part of the tour name was somehow changed to "MaSeri", which gave us a big laugh. This happened at the hotel where we had lunch (even though the name on the bus was correct...).
MANA-SAMA.NET
Twelve hours during a part-time job feels so long, especially at night; it’s almost terrifyingly long.
Mana chan kept shouting, “This theme is difficult!” and Kami kun kept asking, “Mana chan, don’t you have anything?” (laughs). It seems these two aren’t very bound by numbers...
Anyway, Mana chan’s part time job era... It’s full of valuable stories!! Hehe ♥
MALICE MIZER
--So, the theme is "The Fear of Numbers."
Mana: Hmm... That's difficult.
Kami: Haven't you ever noticed when the numbers on a clock are all the same? Like when you look at the time and it's 11:11?
--Does that give you an eerie feeling?
Kami: No, I'm actually happy (laughs). Also, when I'm talking on the phone at night and I look at the clock, it's always 2:14 AM (laughs). It's the witching hour (laughs). And it happens almost every day.
--Do you have any thoughts, Mana?
Mana: Hmm... (laughs) This theme is tough... Hmm...
Kami: Also, I have an obsession with lining up the number 7. I used to go to pachinko parlors a lot, so getting 7s was a thrill (laughs). Ah, that's not scary at all (laughs).
Mana, do you have anything?
Mana: Hmm... When I was a boy, I was a bicycle enthusiast. I even had a speedometer, and it only went up to about 60 kilometers, I think. I was obsessed with maxing it out.
Kami: That's the fear of speed.
Mana: Yeah, I was pushing the limits of speed. The bike I had wasn't a Roadman, but it was a sports-type with gears and semi-drop handlebars... You don't see them much nowadays.
Kami: They were popular back then. The ones with the light on the side.
Mana: The more gear shifts, the better. Five-speed was common, but with six-speed, it was like, "One more gear!" (laughs).
Kami: Speaking of numbers, I save 500 yen coins (laughs). Last year, a friend gave me a piggy bank that can hold up to 300,000 yen, and I'm close to reaching the goal. How long did it take you to save?
Kami: One year! When I talked about it, a fan once sent me a 500 yen coin in a letter (laughs).
Mana: Really? Well, I’m saving 10,000 yen bills (laughs).
Kami: So I make sure not to spend any 500 yen coins. Even when I shop, I make sure to get change in 500 yen coins, or I exchange five 100 yen coins for a 500 yen coin at the convenience store (laughs). Mana, do you have anything else?
Mana: Hmm...
--Like the fear of having to wake up in the morning?
Mana: Oh, even if I have work early the next morning, I stay up until around 5 AM, so I do get that "Oh no, it's already this late" feeling, but that’s why I always sleep in the car during travel.
Kami: Because we’re so busy, sleeping in the car becomes something to look forward to.
Mana: Yeah, it's really enjoyable (laughs).
Kami: It's almost like that's what keeps me going (laughs).
Mana: Yeah, but during our indie days, I was the one who drove.
Mana: I was the designated driver (laughs). Back then, mornings were terrifying. I had to wake everyone up by phone.
--Did you wake up all the members?
Mana: Yes, I’d call them to wake them up and then go around picking them up in the car. That was really something. It was like hell; I did it while crying (laughs). There were members who wouldn’t wake up no matter how many times I called (I wonder who?). And there were people whose phones wouldn’t even connect (laughs).
Kami: By the way, I’m never late. Unless I’m stuck in traffic or something, I always arrive on time when we have a meeting. Mana, do you have anything else? (laughs)
Mana: Ah! The fear of numbers! I used to work part-time at a rental video store, but when the sales weren’t great, I’d rent out videos myself.
-- Really? Were you in a position of responsibility?
Mana: There were morning and night shifts, and I was the manager for the morning shift, so if the morning sales were bad, it was my responsibility. When no customers came, I would wander around the front of the store, getting anxious (laughs).
-- Well, you can’t exactly solicit customers at a rental video store (laughs).
Mana: Exactly. You can’t just say, "We’ve got good videos here!" So all I could do was wander around (laughs).
Kami: I just thought of something! The fear of numbers! In the band I was in before Malice Mizer, the current drummer and I were born in the same year and on the same day. It was terrifying (laughs).
Mana: I just thought of something else too (laughs). I used to work a part-time job inspecting cups at a factory. That factory had cups endlessly going around 24/7 (laughs). I worked 12-hour shifts there, but since the cups were constantly moving on the conveyor belt, there was no end to it. It was terrifying. Plus, it had a roof but no doors, so in the winter, the cold north wind would blow in while I just watched the cups… (laughs).
--That sounds like a tough job.
Mana: It was tough. It was torture (laughs). Nowadays, even if your hair is dyed, it’s socially accepted, but back then, if you had a part-time job, it was limited to handing out tissues or working in a factory (laughs).
Kami: Yeah, or working for a delivery service.
Mana: "Yeah, like at those places where the packages come down on conveyor belts (laughs). I was once in charge of handling packages going to Tokyo, and while other people only had a few packages coming their way and were taking it easy, I was getting a constant stream of packages (laughs)."
Kami: "Even now, when I see the baggage counter at the airport, it reminds me of those days (laughs). Those 12-hour shifts felt so long, especially the night shifts—they were terrifyingly long."
Mana: "Yeah, yeah, and for 12 hours, the cups kept coming endlessly. By the end, I was even seeing hallucinations (laughs)."
The end // From Vicious Magazine
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