Asagiri causally saying skk don't get along while saying Ranpo and Poe have a deeper relationship then them
Premarital feet holding
guys I was just informed that this in fact DIDN'T happen and I'm on new meds đ„đ„đ„
do you guys remember when that one celeb with the baseball cap and the very well groomed goatee (I think his name began with an H??) announced on twitter that he was taking so time off and then in the span of 6 minutes burned down a care home? wild.
Throwing that bitch in his uniform, and for what
bonus (face reveal except I made myself look WAY too young):
Oops Clear did it again
I think everyone should appreciate the Fitzy Chickens (I spent too long editing this)
anyways here's a furry art I did for @lemonysssnickers (we're secretly married she just doesn't know trust)
is it great
For all that Poe is characterized as soft (and rightfully so) Iâve always thought it was curious how easily he is given to violence, especially as it relates to Ranpo.
For the below analysis of Poe, I will be comparing Poe to the narrator of the Cask of Amontillado, Ranpo to Fortunado, and Poeâs novel to specific part of the catacombs where Fortunado was walled in.
Poe spent 6 years plotting the murder of a man who beat him in a detective competition, which Iâm fairly certain is a reference to the narrator in Cask of Amontillado (abbreviated hence as Cask)
when [Fortunado] ventured upon insult I vowed revenge
Fortunado is the man the narrator kills, and for a similar reason to which Poe wanted to kill Ranpo (humiliation). In fact, this entire first paragraph delves into reasoning that Poe follows in his revenge against Ranpo. Notably:
[A wrong] is equally unredressed when the avenger fails to make himself felt as such to him who has done the wrong.
And Poe makes it very clear to Ranpo that he felt humiliated by Ranpo, and what he felt humiliated by. He tries to make himself felt to Ranpo, and we see this with how he tries to remind the detective of their history.
Both Ranpo and Fortunado are:
1. Better than and are arrogant about a skill which the narrator also takes pride in. Ranpo is astonishingly brilliant (moreso than Poe) while Fortunado is someone who âprided himself on his connoisseurship in wineâ and the narrow is also âskilful in the Italian vintageâ. Ranpo also repeatedly brags about his intelligence/super-deduction and calls other people stupid, just like Fortunado insists that he is the better expert on wine than the other people the narrator brings up, and calls one of them âan ignoramusâ.
2. Killed (or attempted to be killed) by in a test of the aforementioned, shared skill. Ranpo is lured into a mystery novel while Fortunado is lured into a cellar to taste wine.
3. People who will be missed, âunlikeâ the killer. Ranpo is the agencyâs pillar while Poe works for the guild which is all âmoney and violenceâ. Poe even remarks that he envied Ranpoâs praise, and that he himself cannot stomach the world much. Fortunado was said by the narrator to be ârich, respected, admired, beloved; you are happy, as once I was. You are a man to be missedâ.
4. âLuckyâ people. Poe viewed Ranpo as lucky for being the holder of glory and praise and for being blessed with the super deduction ability, unlike the âdisgracedâ Poe. Fortunadoâs name literally means fortunate.
5. Locked in a place to die where others have already died. As the novelâs murderer, Ranpo likely wouldâve been one of if not the last person to die, and when he did heâd have died among corpses, much like Fortunado died in the catacombs.
6. Meant to be slowly killed. Since again, Ranpo(âs character) wouldâve probably outlasted everyone else itâs likely that it wouldâve taken a while for him to die, while Fortunado is literally walled into the cellar and presumably died of dehydration/starvation/suffocation/etc. Itâs also possible that has Ranpo not figured out the killer, he wouldâve died of the same cause (since, who knows if there was food in that novel).
To me, the above similarities that Poe is like the narrator as well. This in mind, and considering canon actions, I do think that Poe is intensely and easily given to violence when moved to be. However, I also think this happens only in regard to Ranpo.
However, I also think he is principled and intentional about this violence. He gives Ranpo a fair chance. He has all the Guildâs resources at his disposal and probably couldâve done more to kill the man of all he wanted to do was kill, but noâhe wanted to beat Ranpo at his own game. He wanted to redress the insult he suffered as the narrator of Cask did when he lured Fortunado into a game.
The narrator of Cask of Amontillado invited (did not force, only perhaps poke the ego of) Fortunado gave Fortunado plenty of chances to leave, even offered multiple times to take him back out when he began to cough / show ill health (though depending on interpretation, these may have been done to goad Fortunado into continuing). Similarly, Poe gave Ranpo a challenge (which he willingly took) and every chance to back out before he entered the book.
However, as Fortunadoâs desire to prove his skill in wine tasting led him to be walled into the catacombs, Ranpoâs desire for the Guild info led him into the book. From there, both of their situations were escapable (or at least they were meant to be).
Also, if youâre wondering why I think the novel is specifically the part of the catacombs that Fortunado was walled into (and not the trip down to the catacombs itself), just look at this image:
Bricked in, much like Fortunado.
All of this leads me to believe that to Poe, revenge was not about the ends, but the method. The ends had no meaning of the method did not address his revenge appropriately. Poe himself suggests this as well when he mentions that the Guildâs violence bores him. The Guildâs violence is just violence, but Poeâs violence towards Ranpo is methodical, intentional, meaningful, and cruel. This leads me intoâŠ
Take this scene from the Cask:
âEnough,â he said; âthe cough is a mere nothing; it will not kill me. I shall not die of a cough.â
âTrue â true,
And this scene from chapter 32:
Itâs a bit subtle, but both killers reference that their victim is going to die. The narrator in Cask says âtrueâ because indeed Fortunado would not die of a cough, but of whatever killed him in the catacombs. And in Poeâs eyes (since he believed he would successfully kill Ranpo), Ranpo would âpractically die to secure that infoâ.
Neither of them feel guilt, or even give a thought about feeling guilt, for what theyâre doing.
I also want to note that I donât think either the narrator in Cask nor Poe necessarily enjoy the inflicting of violence. They just⊠do it. The violence is not blood or pain to relish in, but the vector of their revenge. When Yosano âdiesâ in the novel and Ranpo is anguished, Poe does not shout about delighting in Ranpoâs misery, but rather is just glad to have beaten him.
The violence is part of these two killersâ method, and the method does matter to them (more than the outcome, even), but the violence is not the part of the method that matters. It is an avenue through which the method is delivered.
As a closing note, I also leave with you the observation that we only get the name of the narrator of The Cask of Amontillado, Montresor, at the very end of the story (when Fortunado has been almost completely walled in), just as Ranpo only claims to remember Poe after heâs gotten out of the novel.
My personal thoughts on Poeâs relationship to Ranpo (IE, not analysis of Poe and Cask) will be below the cut.
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Poe is a little insane.
I really do like thinking about his desire to take violent revenge on Ranpo without actually caring about the violence part is a super cool thing to explore.
I also, again, think that this disposition to violence is Ranpo-specific; that Poe would not be as violent towards anyone other than Ranpo or unless Ranpo was involved. Ranpo and all his arrogance and brilliance. Ranpo as the loved, praised man he is.
I also do not think Poe wants to hurt Ranpo anymore, just for the record (and again I donât think it was ever about causing harm, just satisfying his own vengeance), neither do I view him as possessive (I mean, we see him happily cheering for Ranpoâs intellectual prowess being recognized during the Perfect Crime arc).
What I do think is that Poe is willing to do just about anything for Ranpo, and to extremes. We see that he easily bets on Guild secrets awayâscrewing over the group that pays him an unholy amount of moneyâin order to have Ranpoâs attention and that heâll write entire books on Ranpoâs whims (I havenât counted the number of books Ranpoâs used throughout the manga but itâs not a small number of entire novels written in what I assume was less than a year). And while we havenât seen Poe be violent again, I do think itâs possible.
This is all to say, if you wanna know where my brain has been today, itâs been thinking up scenes like this:
It was plain to see that Ranpo was made to be loved. His voice was loud, his grins were broad, and no better was there ever a moment to celebrate than when he snatched up his glasses and declared,
âNow, my super-deduction will reveal the truth behind this case!â
To deny Ranpo the right to be loved by the public was to deny who Ranpo was. Poe would have nothing else but the whole of him locked at the forefront of his mind.
I think this interpretation is also neat to think about in regards to the recent arc, but I didnât have the brain space to write something like that today.
I have more RanPoe thoughts, but those will have to wait until a later post (as this is meant to specifically be focused on Poe, The Cask of Amontillado, and violence). Soon, soon.
To be explored in the future⊠Ranpoâs and Poeâs relationships to feelings of alienation.
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