Any Snape Fan Who Has The Strength To Argue With Marauders Stans And Snape-antis On TikTok Has My Utmost

the awkward moment when

all your friends are tony stark stans and sulk in a corner when u explain that he sucks

i was talking to my friends about the disgust i felt when tony joked about rape and was blatantly sexist and homo/transphobic and the tony stan was sitting in a corner, sulking about ‘when did that even happen ur just making stuff up.’

girl.

‘i’ll send you a bar of soap’

“Speaking about manned or unmanned, you gotta get him to tell you about the time he guessed wrong. It’s spring break, just remember that. Spring break 1987, that lovely lady, what was his name? Was it Ivan?” - ESPECIALLY since at that time, don’t ask don’t tell was still a thing. fuck you, tony

not to mention the murder bot he created after specifically being told not to

his goddamn nazi rant in endgame when he was like ‘who cares about precious freedoms’

his empire of wealth built on the blood of middle eastern children

the entire womanizer shtick + the fact he expects pepper to baby him

shot sam for no reason.

tried to murder bucky.

locked his friends in the literal fucking RAFT.

belittling steve constantly after steve had his entire life ripped away from him.

and that’s not even the half of it!

I’ll keep saying this till I’m here

Had Lily been man- a MALE friend Snape loved and respected so much that his grief over his death has never faded after many years as he made a promise to protect his son, everyone would be “OH that is so amazing, so honorable”

But because Lily is a woman it’s immediately incel behavior. It’s immediately thought as vile and disgusting. Because according to these people, who are def not incels themselves, still grieving over your female friend or doing anything for a woman would always be more unreasonable and creepy unless it’s a man

Or let me put it in another perspective, just because your friend immediately means nothing to you after you break it off or after she dies then that doesn’t mean it’s the same for Snape. Especially as Lily was the only positive figure he could look up to and identify with in his life.

But according to snaters, Lily is just a pretty housewife that he was pining over and not an extremely intelligent and talented girl who inspired him and who he understood on a deeper level

Everything haters criticise Severus for is also done by at least half of the other characters in the stories, but for some reason Severus is the one that cops the hate while the others just get brushed over. Make it make sense.

i.e

“He hates werewolves.” - Everybody is prejudice/afraid of werewolves. And most of them didn’t almost get killed by one.

“He’s mean to kids.” - 90% of the teachers in this school are mean to kids. It’s written by someone who went to school in the 70s. Bitchy teachers was the norm.

“He said mudblood.” - Once! And forever regretted it! Draco said it like 15 times and I don’t see hate being lobed at him.

Double standards everywhere 🤦‍♀️

we need to stop saying hating a female character is misogynistic

yes, i hate annabeth chase, yes im a feminist, yes we exist.

annabeth sucks ass. she’s literally just annoying. she’s one of those blondes who acts like being blonde is the disadvantage, not being female. annabeth chase needs to shut the fuvk up.

i got called sexist for saying i dont like her. u guys r acc delusional

ty 4 coming to my ted talk

Semi... controversial opinion. But i dont think pansy parkinson is racist. I think shes a bit of a bitch and was written to be just. The worst. 2 dimensional mean girl possible, but shes not racist.

The scene that people bring up when talking about her is when she taunts angelina about her hair, saying it looks like worms. Honestly, while a racist thing to Say, i dont think its indicative of her personal feelings on black people as a whole. Other than that, shes just Wizarding Racist, which like, isnt good, but i dont think its the same. (Though having all but one of the black characters she COULD interact with being gryfindors/not purebloods sure doesnt help).

More than anything, because i mostly see people bring this up in her relation to hermione (epsecially poc hermione), i think its silly to make that distinction because of one line. Like, if you can accept dramione or drarry or any other Bitchy Bully Villain/Nice Friendly Hero (esp when the good guy is widely headcanoned as black/poc), then pansy/hermione isnt any different. I could totally hear draco making that same comment to angelina, he just never did on screen.

Pansy was written to be an irridemable horrible person, but jkr did that by making her a bitchy mean girl who says whatever she things will get to someone with maybe 2 scenes a book and never actually affects anything except like once. Its not unreasonable that people would see her an go Its Free Real Estate, the same way they did with blaise and theo.

compilation post of commentary youtubers talking about dream, no drummyaches edition !

note, i might not exactly like 100% of the things said in these videos BUT they ultimately redeemed dream to a very large audience

starting with i think is the most viewed video right now, Will Dream's Response Actually Fix Anything? by Lessons in Meme Culture. it's 2:40 minutes long and the point is simply to open conversation about him being able to successfully redeem himself, but it has a lovely comment section if you want to scroll through that

Dream Just Responded To Everything by AugustTheDuck, had already spoken about Dream pretty positively, lovely guy, lovely summary [ touches earpiece the main studio is telling me august actually was a dream hater but turned around recently, so noting that down ]

Dream's Response was Perfect, But... by EntLaiser, who previously made a video actually speaking negatively of Dream, completely changed his opinion and talked about how meme culture is being used to justify mass harassment, along with being nice to Dream stans and defending them

Pyrocynical made a video. its bad. don't watch it. he gets cooked in the comments though so that's okay. Acheeto also made a video but i don't like the guy so i'm not linking that either, but it was a good video

Dream Finally Responded To The Allegations by sensitive soci3ty. i really like this video but i especially like the comments that bring up a lot of great points, it was refreshing scrolling through them

LIES! by Omni. Omni is really big on the commentary community so his input is valued, this video is long and goes through a lot of unrelated stuff because it's a news segment, but i linked to the timestamp he talks about Dream. it is long, it is thorough, he READS THE DESCRIPTION which i haven't seen anyone do, pretty good

Dream Might Actually Be Innocent by Saverino. this guy is like, the perfect representation of "i only consumed Dream content through social media for years", the most passive onlooker in the world. and his video is awesome, he took a lot of notes, he resumed Dream's video pretty well, and i feel the way he thinks of Dream is how people will look at dream from now on

Dream Finally Responded by Dolan Dark. it's a slob but it's fucking Dolan Dark and he says he believes he's innocent so who cares W for us

other creators we already know and knew they believed Dream, Hot Sauce Beats did a live reaction and so did Nate Alyn if you'd like to go and support them

Dream's Response Was Actually Good by Saamuel. dream hater admitting he was wrong. all is good in the world

Dream Finally Responded To The Allegations by Optimus. don't watch this video lol. he says a bunch of stupid shit, his comments call him out for it, but i am linking it because this guy is huge on the community, a lot of people were waiting on this video on twitter, and he's very clear on saying the allegations are fake, along with shaming twitter antis for their behaviour

Dream's Response Wasn't Good Enough by luhrix specifically talks about the reaction from antis on twitter to the video and how unreasonable some expectations are when it comes to responding to allegations

Does Dream's Response Make Him Innocent? by Blissolic who VERY BRAVELY calls out coyglone ( the guy behind the dreamwastalen account ) for being a piece of shit

Even Dead, Tony Stark Is Crazy

I know it wouldn’t be quite as catchy as Edith, but what’s better than the truth? 

E.D.I.T.H is a pair of eyewear that controls the Stark satellite network, granting the wearer access to killer drones as well as everyone's personal information (including text messages and Google searches). He opted to give it to a teenager with unrestricted access.

Can you conceive handing this much power to a seventeen-year-old in reality? It's terrible enough that "responsible" adults have access to literal drone attacks, and we witness the direct effects when Peter in Far From Home fails to halt a drone strike on a classmate. It's played for laughs, but what was Tony thinking when he created this type of power without putting a check on it? Fury, Happy Hogan, Ant-Man, literally anybody else - there has to be someone with access to a kill-switch or something of the sort to prevent something dreadful from happening, like... Peter surrendering over the system under coercion, which is quite literally the plot of Far From Home. But, even from beyond the grave, we can sense Tony's arrogance. Bringing a kid into your own mess is crazy. And it was!

Interestingly enough, we've seen comparable technology in superhero films before; The Dark Knight depicts a similar machine with less lethal powers. Using the population's mobile phones, the gadget utilises sonar to picture all of Gotham City. Batman intends to use it to track out the Joker. Lucius Fox considers it "beautiful, dangerous, and unethical" for one man to have such control. When he threatens to quit, Batman informs him that the computer can be turned off by simply typing in his name. DC succeeds where the MCU does not - by not giving children effortless murder weapons and having a kill-switch to ensure that the  civilians' safety is not compromised. 

While Far From Home depicts the dangers of it falling into the wrong hands, very little is explored in terms of the possibility of true corruption (as opposed to funny mix-ups that almost kill classmates). What about the idea that this type of technology is accessible to the "good guys"? Will Marvel eventually realise that E.D.I.T.H. is dangerous technology that should be exterminated?

Me when I defend Snape so much and remember that Snaters brush me off as just “some Snape apologist” even though I actually have so many criticisms of his awful actions, love his deep-rooted flaws and complexities, love to analyse how much his horrible childhood shaped him out to be for the rest of his life and how it turned him into what he hated most (a bully), and usually the only times I defend him are when his haters misconstrue what he did and make up fanon claims about him, not because I can’t handle when they say anything bad about a character I love, but because I simply can’t handle when people misunderstand his character (for better or for worse):

how differently do you think the Marauders would have treated Snape is he was female? Would they have been less vicious or would their bullying just take on a different form (like say touching her inappropriately or flipping her skirt just like removing Snape's pants)

And would Remus stand up for Snape more if he was female because would he think "no she can't handle that, they're going too far, she's a girl" etc etc

*squeals* oh my goodness I love this questionnn 🤩

I think it depends on many things — what would the professors do if the Marauders’ relentless and extreme bullying began? What would Remus say? How would the other students react to the Marauders’ bullying when it’s done in public? And most importantly, would the Marauders stop after they face consequences?

I think:

Remus would definitely force himself to speak up because the “gentleman in him doesn’t want a woman to go through that.” I’m sure his justification of the incident was “boys will be boys.” If Snape was a girl instead, I’m sure he, along with many more students and professors, would be enraged.

I think the Professors definitely would’ve done something about it. The most we hear in canon is James and Sirius getting detentions, but I’m sure they would’ve gotten way more warnings from the professors if they continued with their behaviour. And I’m sure a lot more students would report the Marauders’ behaviour (both their behaviour towards Snape and their behaviour towards other students), and the teachers would be forced to do something about it.

Another thing we have to remember is that the Marauders era took place in the 70s and women weren’t exactly.. treated the best during that time. So you could argue that a lot of fem!Snape’s experiences with them was dismissed, not only because she was a Slytherin, but because she was a woman too (and she wasn’t a conventionally pretty one). Additionally, we should also remember that James and Sirius are both privileged white guys who come from well-known pureblood families, so I doubt they would’ve faced really serious consequences, unless they took more precautions to hide their bullying of fem!Snape.

But I still think that, while fem!Snape must’ve experienced a lot of misogyny during her Hogwarts years, the professors (especially the women) would be more sympathetic to her than if she were a man (because “he should just man up” or “Potter and Black are just being boys, it’s not a big deal”).

Conclusion: I think that fem!Snape’s struggles would be taken more seriously and sometimes a few students (either guys or girls) would stand up for her when she’s bullied in public, so as a response to that, the Marauders made sure to target and attack her in more private areas in order to avoid any disruptions. And I think she would also still experience other people dismissing what she went through, but for slightly different reasons than male!Snape, perhaps some people might tell her “boys do that because they like you” or “it’s okay they’re just being silly boys” or “be more mature, you’re a girl.” And I think James, Sirius, and Peter might possibly target her without Remus because he would’ve spoken up about it more than once and they decided “he’s no fun, let’s just ditch him.” And I think SWM definitely would not have happened in public, because if it did, I think that would definitely be the last straw for the professors and the Marauders would get either suspended or even expelled.

End of rant. Thank you for this interesting question Nonnie.

that "jack manifold is the best ally because he's not afraid of gay people" post hits different after ranboo got cancelled because he mentioned the joke that Fans made about him dressing like a lesbian, and tommy getting cancelled because he said he understands lesbians (because he also likes women you see), and finding out that the "was hitler a lesbian?" joke technoblade has been cancelled for a solid 4 months in a row for was in response to a skull thought to be hitler's turning out to be a woman's, and tubbo getting cancelled for accidentally writing "happy ptide," and techno getting cancelled Again for helping to raise hundreds of thousands of dollars for the trevor project without apologizing to twitter first and-

maybe cc's would be less afraid of talking about gay people if people didn't act like That