Actually, ex-Christians have earned the right to make fun of Christianity. It comes free with the religious trauma.
Socializing with non-apostates is odd. Like they're just chilling and meanwhile your internal monologue is like
I need to tell you immediately it'll never come up please ask more questions it doesn't matter you think I'm a freak you don't even care I need you to understand it's impossible to explain I was raised in a cult I'm literally so normal.
I can understand that a lot of fellow leftists don’t want muslim folks to get attacked for simply having their faith or wearing hijab, but apparently for most of them, it ended up being translated to “we’re not allowed to criticize islam as a religion.”
I wish we can separate attacks with criticism because the latter is very necessary. I can absolutely talk about how islam, like other abrahamic religions, can teach some very harmful things and become a tool for the justification of violence, without attacking people who happen to only hold some parts of the faith that doesn’t include the bigotry. (Or without attacking people in general)
it’s so isolating being an ex muslim, i left islam for my liberal values and trauma only for a lot of people on the left to coddle islam and defend it from any criticism while ex muslims are still being killed, tortured, honour killed by their own family, it was very disheartening to see that the side that says that they are “here” for the people who are suffering to constantly demonize ex muslims and their trauma and suffering and actively create a hostile environment against them and then they wonder why some ex muslims turn to the right, cause they listen to them even though they may know that they are probably nothing but a token they still will be there cause they think that the right hears their criticisms and suffering.
The other thing about discussing harmful things about the christian church and getting "that's not what that verse really means/that's not how that doctrine should be applied/that's not actually supported biblically/etc" back is that... at a certain point it doesn't matter. Yes there are varying beliefs within christianity (understatement with 45,000 different denominations lmao), but you don't get to claim that christianity is separate from any harmful beliefs when a lot of harmful beliefs are the majority.
You can say "the bible wasn't ever talking about gay relationships in [xyz] verses" but that doesn't make the average church actually safe and affirming for queer people. You can say "actually hell doesn't have any biblical backing" but that doesn't mean very much when like 75-80% of christians believe in hell. You can say "men and women are equal in the eyes of the Lord" but it doesn't erase the rampant misogyny in christian culture.
If the members make up the church, if members are the church, then at a certain point the cultural beliefs or majority beliefs have precedence over what was intended. You can't say "oh just ignore [belief/doctrine/interpretation/etc]" when that would be dismissing the church's most predominant collective beliefs. You don't get to just disregard harm because that "wasn't the intention". You don't get to look at the result of said harm and decide it doesn't matter because it makes you look bad.
christians love saying people have victim mentalities but the second u push back they become martyred and crucified on the cross itself, you're the meanest worstest eviliest awfullest person and they are but a poor persecuted most villified christian
Someone i know even admitted that the only reason he’s a zionist is out of fear of “God’s Wrath”.
Listen, i dont mean to sound like a reddit atheist, but... You ever think about how evangelical Chriatians very literally believe that there will be a genocide in which billions of humans, mostly just innocent everyday people, are condemned to suffer in hell?
And, like, that's the end. That's the finale. Of everything they believe. That's their solution for the world. A final one, if you will.
And they don't rebel. They don't say "hey, wait, that's a bit much" and appeal to their God to maybe reconsider. They don't even seem to really mind.
Instead, they worship. They conjure up an image of a genocidal maniac, and they worship it. The word "praise" is bandied about a lot. Praise. For a leader whose endgoal, very transparently, is genocide.
Suddenly a lot of history makes a little more sense.
Religious conservatives love talking about trans people “mutilating their genitals” and then go off to circumcise their children without their consent 😇
Christians will abuse you their entire life and then tell you the reason you’re mentally ill is because you don’t have jesus in your heart
Just saw another "if you hurt people because of your faith you don't really have any faith" post, and wanted to point out once again that this weird thing we do where we pretend that "real" religion is incapable of doing harm isn't doing us any favors. Of course people with "real" faith can hurt people! Christians beat their queer kids because they have real faith that being queer gets you tortured forever after you die, and that beating kids is a 100% god-approved activity! India's beef vigilantes kill their Muslim neighbors because they have real faith that cows are sacred animals that shouldn't be killed!
Stop this No True Scotsman shit! All it does is cede the moral high ground in every situation to religious belief, automatically agreeing that religion makes you a better person, and anything that makes you a worse person can't be religion.
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