How Do You Personally Feel About Reyna And Piper In Terms Of How They Were Handled/treated By The Plot?

How do you personally feel about Reyna and Piper in terms of how they were handled/treated by the plot?

I don’t feel it’s my place to speak about Piper’s situation since I’m not NA, so I’ll link you to some other people’s posts (specifically from some cherokee readers), where it’s all explained: [link 1] [link 2] [link 3]

As for Reyna… yes, I have a few problems with the way she’s written, and I’m going to expand a little on it because I’ve never seen it addressed, at least not in detail.

First of all, there’s the whole attitude Riordan has going on of “she’s a strong independent woman who don’t need no man,” when abso-fucking-lutely every other character, minor or otherwise, got paired up by the end of Blood of Olympus. 

Riordan writes her as someone who’s always, always alone and being left behind: forced to kill her father, separated from her sister, dealing with a two people job by herself… her damn horse died in front of her. And she doesn’t want to be alone. She asks for help, for company more than once. Asking Percy to be preator with her in SoN, her willingness to align with Annabeth in MoA, her overall helpfulness towards all the characters that interact with her, and her relief when she’s finally on a mission with someone (as evidenced by BoO when she’s with Nico), they all show that YES she’s strong, and she can deal with all the weight she’s constantly carrying around, but she still needs someone! It takes a toll on her, as it would on anyone, and instead of having her work rewarded, she gets even more taken from her. 

Her backstory is compromised of “she had a father, who went mad, she accidentally vaporized him commiting one of the worst crimes in the eyes of the romans, she moved on to an island with her sister, where they made a home for themselves, but oops it got destroyed, so now they are separated. Oh, also, after she made it to New Rome, one of her closest friends went missing and came back months later with seemingly completely new alliances.”

Reyna is constantly being taken for granted and… that’s not as much evidence of the characters not caring about her as much as it is Riordan not caring about her. Jason is seen thinking about her more than once in TLH, yet when the greeks go to Camp Jupiter they don’t even get to catch up (yes, yes, tight schedule, w/e, but if RR could squeeze in a melodramatic Percabeth reunion then… she could spare a few pages to develop Reyna’s relationships).

Annabeth and Reyna seem to have hit it off really well in MoA, and iirc that’s all there is to it, not much more development on that front. Did she ever get to properly reunite with her sister? She doesn’t even get the consolation of maybe finding someone in the future (what with the whole “no demigod will capture her heart”-thing Bellona told her).

As for miscellaneous things related to her ethnicity… On that front I’d say she’s better off than Leo, a walking stereotype. However, she does have three last names: Reyna is fine, but Avila is a last name, as are Ramirez and Arellano. 

I’ve seen some people say that it’s “cliche” or “overdone” that she’s got so many names but imo it’s ok - I have the exact same number of them (two first names, two last names), it’s pretty common. However, I insist, Avila is a last name! Unless you want to tell me that she’s somewhat named after the city… I could only find one account of the name being anything but a surname or the name of a place, and it’s a shady site that claims that “Abyla was a wife of Hercules, with whom she had a child that named a city after her.”

The only thing this last part does, though, is prove that Riordan’s pretty damn lazy with his research when it comes to writing characters of color. “Reyna Abigail Ramirez-Arellano” sounds almost the same, and Abigail’s an actual name.

Finally, I don’t have the #receipt because Riordan seems to have deleted his tumblr, but I’m 99% sure he once said that he didn’t want to write Reyna as a lesbian for some bs reason like “I fear stereotypes” or s/t, when we all know he loves them (and even if he didn’t he’s rich enough to hire a sensitivity reader), and several lesbian/wlw bloggers have said that’s bullshit (search the blogs I linked at the top^ for evidence of that). He just doesn’t want to give her any kind of positive development.

TL;DR: Reyna deserves better.

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1 year ago

Part 2 of Feral Jason Grace and Feral Percy Jackson headcannons stuff (whatever this mess is supposed to be)

Because sometimes you gotta remember where you started (and I'm trash for these feral boys. Also @caffeinated-croissant thanks for reminding me 😅... Cos I totally maybe... Possibly forgot...)

Anyway!

Jason has several bracelets, Percy unapologetically owns a fidget spinner. They can't keep their attention on them for long but their a source of comfort. Jason's are a mix of charm and bangle bracelets, that somehow get suck to anything and everything.

Percy has days where he won't talk to anyone, he taps the ground and makes little grumbling noises that Jason learns to understand. On those nights, Percy curls up in Jason's arms and doesn't move all night.

Reyna ran to Jason and hugged him in front of both camps. She was so close to crying and held him fiercely, Jason actually did cry because he was so afraid he'd lost her. Reyna also dragged Percy into the hug cos he was standing their motionless, appointing them as her little brothers and that if anyone dared harm them... Well those threats are suitable here.

(That's the day the treaty was made because both Roman and Greek alike learned never to piss of Reyna Avila Ramirez Arellano.)

Annabeth is still kinda mad over Percy breaking her nose on his first day (when he woke up) and it doesn't help that he just doesn't care. "It's not my fault you stood so close" and so that's that.

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Piper is just kinda there, she's really close to Annabeth but after the days in the Wilderness school, where her fake relationship with Jason never happened because no...she definitely remembers him trying to claw her eyes out on several occasions and finds him strange... If kinda hot.

Jason struggling to be human, Percy hugging him close when life gets to much for him. They have a blanket fort and spend days inside cuddling when things get to much.

Both of them are stuck in a constant game of tug of war with anything and everything they have. Scarves, belts, shirts, anything and it all starts without warning.

Percy is more likely to delve into the darker parts of his powers, blood vending cos it fills him with adrenaline and he loves how free it is. And it makes him a great healer, which helps his mental state. He just cannot be restrained, only a few can get him to stop before he goes to far.

For Jason its the opposite because the camp instilled him with rules, he's terrified he'll go over board and has been nerfed as a result. It annoys some of them but Percy is always there to hold is hand when Jason's struggling. But when he's mad, Jason comes alive in a way no ones ever seen with enough raw power and brutality to rival his Father.

Jason just zone's out sometimes chewing some old slippers.

Percy and Jason are taught sign language by deaf/mute campers, to help them when they struggle with words and they spent their time helping these kids improve.

Percy is constantly picking fights and the only one who can stop him is Jason... But he's usually content with watching. Reyna could but she only steps in when she can be bothered to.

Jason breaks down when he meets Thalia, hides from her because he's so afraid she'll judge him because he knows she and Percy fight constantly. But she surprises him by welcoming him with open arms, and while he's odd she's patient. "I waited years to see you again, the fact your alive and well is all I need. You think I care your like this?" it got funnier when Lupa had to show up to stop some of Artemis's wolves from adopting Jason and Percy.

Percy is the first to confess, he gets frustrated because he can't make the words come out but Jason understands and they both kiss under the stars. Lupa and Sally knew it was coming but both fake surprise when they announce it.

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Nico: So, what, now I’m just supposed to do anything that Reyna does? I mean, what if she jumped off a cliff? Coach Hedge: If Reyna were to jump off a cliff, she would’ve done her due diligence regarding the height of the cliff, the depth of the water, and the angle of entry, so yes. If you see Reyna jump off a cliff, by all means, jump off a cliff. Nico: You jump off a cliff! Coach Hedge: Gladly. Provided Reyna did first.

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