The Last Thing.

This type of bodies need more appreciation:

Look I love big muscular dudes as much as the next guy, but there's something beautiful about skinny dudes as well.

If I had a nickel for everytime Johnny Yong Bosch voiced a badass white haired character with big pecs who ends being experimented in a tube I will have two nickels...

And I wish it happens more often

This is such a specific niche of characters I love.

The age difference being also generational makes almost all Endeavor ships with young adults more fun, Hawks especially.

I think you aren't a shipper but considering our last talk...I wonder

What you think about dabi x Mirko?

Its just....if Mirko has to be shipped with a villain, dabi could work. Now it doesn't mean it will be a sweet romance...it think it would be dark. A one night stand type of deal where dabi thinks Mirko is as villainous as he is (she likes to beat up villains, she goes for the kill)

I just wondering here bc I've seen some arts and fics of them and...got my attention

Also...god I love your interpretation of Dabi x Burnin hahaha. He fucks her in hopes to get infos...gets useless infos (till the very last second where she reveal rather blase smth essential)

Oh but I do like shipping, is just I don't have anything worth to post about the ships I like (for now).

That being said Mirko isn't a character I'm very invested, but considering how popular she's overall obviously there's a lot of ships with her. For some reason many people love ship her with Shigaraki... ew why that's even a thing?

I never seen any Mirko x Dabi content but it can't be as bad as that other. And she would probably dominate Dabi which is always a plus to see.

Perhaps the only Mirko ship that got my interest a bit is her and Rappa, mainly because the fun chemistry they got in Vigilantes. We can considerer him an time to time villain?

That idea about Burnin came out of nowhere really, her chaotic personality just make this kind of situations write themselves. She's also the kind of person who could drive mr. edgelord crazy because he can't stand her energy.

Could you tell me your thoughts on Nine as a character? I rarely meet fans of his. If you would indulge me, How about a bit of a what if, where Nine replaces Shigaraki and Shigaraki is a footnote in Nine's story? IE, Tomura is a movie villain in this universe.

I can assure you it's the same for me 😅 Nine fans are a rare species, but here we are.

As for what I think about him as a character? Uf... where even start?

I really find him to be way more interesting and rich in themes than most people think.

On the sense most people seem to take him as a one note character whitout any interesting trait, and calling him incorrectly a "might makes right" guy which hey, is in part true but that's just the surface.

Another thing I don't agree with most people is that Nine ideology is a very basic "the survival of the finest and only the strong deserve to live".

That's not really true. There's multiple hints that reveal parts of his true nature, especially when we have his POV in his origin chapter:

It always istruck me how Nine claims that under his ideal world everyone should aim to make their own way to top by pure strength, but simultaneusly he steps to defend the people he sees as oppressed by an unfair society.

And while some people make the argument of "he only cares about the people with strong quirk", but think about this: how he even knows his friends for example were that strong even before meet them?

His story only show these persons at their lowest point on life, yet by pure instinct Nine decided help them and offer them a hand without really demand nothing in exchange.

When he rescued Chimera is particulary powerful because we know Nine gets ill by using his quirk, yet he had no problem on create a massive storm just to save Chimera from the people who intended to kill him for being an heteromorph.

I really think Nine uses his ideology as a sort of defense mechanism due the circunstances he lived through most of his life. Which is logical as he was an orphan abandoded at what seemed to be a public bathroom at birth, which is sick af.

And it also relates to this particular line of his chapter:

"Everything is already decided" while we saw him being a child alone and multiple ominous smiles.

It really gives me the feeling that Nine actually felt a lot of abandonement and insolation while growing giving him idea that only the strongest should rule over the world, but at the same it can't really take away his selfless nature.

The fact Nine knows he was being used by the doctor, yet the only thing he thinks about going through the process are his friends even correcting himself by say "is for create OUR ideal world" shows how much he actually values the people close to him, to what extremes he's willing to go for give them what he considers fair.

And it's so powerful how even with his body destroyed and crawling on the ground Nine still keeps moving by the sheer will to make real his dream world.

It's an interesting way in which he parallels Deku on how he fights even at the cost of sacrifice and destroy his body just for the people he loves.

Kinda ironic if you think about the fact Horikoshi make his way to try to portray Shigaraki as "a hero for villains" despite that idea doesn't fit him at all, when Nine was already an heroic villain who parallels Deku a way that is pretty organic and logical.

I said a lot of times how funny is that is a fraction of time Nine not only executes the same ideas and concepts the main stroy try to apply to Shigaraki, but he does it better.

Nine story is really the story of an underdog who starts from the very bottom, having a really tragic life that molded his vision of a flawed world that should be destroyed, yet he feels very human on the way he relates to people on the same situation and he will do everything for them.

Is what really sells Nine as a character for me. None of these things are stated trying to convince us they happen like with Shigaraki, with Nine this stuff just... happen. Is the most basic show don't tell.

I wonder were that subtle and smart storytelling went in the main story.

...

Oh also, as you asked about the what if scenario, I have a slightly different idea for an AU in which Nine position is inverted with Shigaraki.

But rather than make it a shallow rivalry (as the movie kinda implies they have) I was thinking: what it Nine intends to save Shigaraki instead?

As I said before, is part of Nine's nature to help people no one else would do.

If he found Tenko Shimura that day he will attempt to rescue him and protect him while living both in the streets as homeless orphans. Which is ironic because they're likely a very similar age, just with Nine being slighty older apparently.

And what if they both are later found by AFO and he has ideas for both of them?

AFO will still have his main plan to make one of them "the next me" like in canon, in this case Nine being the candidate because our potato weirdo projects himself and Yoichi into Nine thinking the child is what both would be together.

Problem is... Nine isn't a emotionally disturbed kid who can be manipulated by AFO bs, so obviously when he realizes what are the man true intentions Nine will rebel and fight back. Probably escaping, as he and AFO aren't really compatible at all.

It's ironic as AFO is actually what Nine tried to convince himself he is, but in reality AFO is a selfish lunatic who only uses everyone for his own sake. That would make Nine have a lot of introspection and realizes he doesn't want to follow AFO steps, and neither wants Tenko/Tomura to have that fate.

But as probably Nine could escape alongside Tenko, he becames the next big opportunity on AFO plans, being manipulated into something similar to canon or even worse.

While Nine will still fight and try to save the kid he helped that day, perhaps he will came to late and if something like the island incident happens but using Shigaraki as the villain there, he probably will die being a defining moment of Nine developement as a character.

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Well that was a bit long.

I could write even more, but that would be me going crazy and making a long bible lol.

Hope you enjoy the what if scenario. It's a bit improvised because I didn't think about the details yet, just a very basic storyline structure.

2020.7.26

heroes : rising

AFO art study

This was manly to help myself get used to drawing his adult design, but I’m probably going to need to practice more to get more used to it.

I wouldn't call everyone in MHA handsome (look at Spinner).

But yeah... something really funny about lov stans is that they don't seem to like the canon characters they claim to love, they only are fans of these weird idealized fanon versions of a bunch of psychos and surprise surprise, they get a bit mad when Horikoshi doesn't follow their weird headcanons.

Have you ever wonder why lov stans were so mad when Dabi the maniac serial killer didn't turn to be a secret knight in white armor who fight for his family and is a sjw? His fans eated his fanon version for so many years that eventually accepted that as real, and got a breakdown moment when the canon Dabi was nothing like the fanfics.

Compress on the other hand doesn't even have much of a fanon identity either. Aside of the "dad" jokes he's kinda ignored.

I wish the concept of the grandson of a villain Robin Hood from the old tines was used for a hero instead, that would be an interesting spin for a character who wants to "correct" the legacy of his bloodline.

Have you ever think on how rewrite Compress?

Like I've always thought he must be one of the worse written characters in this series, and that's saying a lot when your writer is Horikoshi.

Outside of being handsome under that stupid outfit and his quirk, everything about Compress is kind of lame. Many other characters have similar concepts but much better execution.

I have some ideas to change his entire role, but nothing serious yet.

Hi @nyc3

Glad you ask bc...I never really gave much thought on Compress. Yes, he is handsome (everyone in MHA is handsome but Izu who Hori says is a gag character) but the man is ...meh, to me. Lov stans go nuts and call him the "dad of the group" and jokes aside....

He isn't even remotely close to be on this label. Kuro? I get it (even if Shig is uncaring for the Nomu. I get why, more or less, I mean I can imagine it's bc how Kuro was passive in the whole shit afo did...but shig still remain faithful to afo) but Mr. Compress is nothing.

Yes, he says one nice thing to Toga (another nutcase) but this is nothing. I do admit lov can work with each other and it's more than Izu gets...but that's the bare minimum.

So no. Mr. Compress is just a big nothing....but he is handsome.

At least he isn't a Spinner.

Dont be a Spinner.

Dumb but cute 🫠

You really hit the nail!

I also imagine that on a more serious note all the kids would be afraid of the public backlash, but not for them themselves but their boyfriends who they think would face the consecuences if they mess up the things.

What they don't know if that each one of their lovers couldn’t care less about the public opinion, and even if it becames public before they graduate, the pros will always support and love their kids no matter what. It's until the last consecuence for them.

Also somehow you got right in all my headcanons about bakushot. Starting by the fact B.J is the best pal ever and he totally supports his bestie and his dear students dating.

Shinya manage to tame Katsuki with a lot of tea, aromatic scent, and many kisses as rewards. Lol he totally love the explosive personality and passion of Katsuki anyway.

Hawks also would totally made a joke about how both of them are shorties dating tall boys from Class A, and he would be the most smug about the many wonders and archievements of Shoto in front of the group. And while Shinya is usually pure humbles this time he couldn't resist say something like "Shoto is such a wonderful boy, but Katsuki still winned that sport fest" which drives Hawks crazy.

Meanwhile Aizawa and A.M just chill with their bunny and kitty.

I have this silly scenario in my head where after officially starting to date, Hawks decides to take Shoto to the beachs of Okinawa for a private vacation on the summer of his 2nd year, where they don't have to hide their feelings because none of their friends or coworkers are present...

Until in the reception of a couples-only hotel they walk straight into Katsuki and Edgeshot holding hands (promise rings included) and shit goes down.

Bakugou of course starts yelling like crazy, while the others are dead silent.

Hawks: I promise is undercover work!

Then Aizawa and Shinso walk into the reception of the hotel holding hands as well.

Shota: Undercover what?

Edgeshot: I think we're going to need a lot of tea for explain this...

...

At least the vacations ain't going to be boring

AWWW they're so dumb 😭

I love when the kids are all dating their mentors and don't know bc they're all trying to keep it a secret.

I like to think the kids all take it very seriously because they would never want to jeopardize their boyfriend's careers but...the adults all know about each other. Hawks definitely (unsubtly) pestered Aizawa for details about Shoto early on. Jeanist helped pick out the promise rings, more impressed that Edgeshot tamed this boy in the first place if anything. Aizawa doesn't like socializing with them but he appreciates having an outlet to show off pictures of how Hitoshi sleeps curled in on himself like a little kitten.

The kids are all freaking the fuck out meanwhile the pros are just like "Were Yagi and Midoriya coming?" "Their flight got delayed unfortunately..."

It's a shame Nine was mostly ignored by the fandom, but it's understandable considering HR was released during the time MVA was at it's peak of hype and everyone treated it like the 2nd coming of Christ.

Also if you're a movie character isn't like people is going to remember you very much, expect for Rody Soul, while the others like Melissa or the Shimano kids have a little niche of fans but that's it.

But it's funny how years later there was a resurgence in the talks of how the main villain should have been and Nine got a lot more of appreciation recently, cause compared to Shigaraki and AFO his characterization feels way more solid despite he having much less content.

Also people generally accepts Nine showed to be a better fighter and more skilled user of the properties of AFO (the quirk). To add to the irony.

You know? It's kinda of funny how LOV fans treat the whole "I want to be a hero for villains" of Shigaraki as something groundbreaking, when the same concept was already introduced in the series (and was done better) with Nine.

Unlike Shigaraki, Nine literally meet his team members when he saved their lives. In Chimera's case it was when a bunch of racists were about to execute him just for being a mutant.

Nine also was a hero for them in a more thematic level, as he not only save their lives but actually give his team mates a reason for live and fight. He offered them the chance to fight for create a better world. For me it's quite remarkable how Nine despite being a homeless and chronically ill person, go for save people he view as equally oppressed by the world.

He was selfless enough to sacrifice his own health using his quirk to save Chimera despite it was destroying his body, and without expecting nothing in exchange for share a dream Nine a hand to people at their lowest point.

That's much more of an "All Might for the villains" or whatever Horikoshi tried to make Shigaraki in the final moments. Or hell Nine even acts better as a foil to Deku in the sense both are selfless individuals who fight despite their bodies are crumbling, just for the save of the persons who are important to them.

How ironic is that Nine, the original movie villain that was supposed to be just a prototype for the "final villain" of MHA, ended executing the same themes way better than Shigaraki.

Hi @nyc3 👋

A main reason as to why people treat shigaraki's I want to be a hero for the villains ideology better than nine's is simply because I assume a lot of people forgot the plot of the 2nd movie or haven't read the one shot manga chapter mha leauge of villains undercover. All of this is a shame because I heavily agree that nine's version of I want to be a hero and hope for the villains is executed and built up 10000x times better than shigarakis and nine had a fraction of the screentime that shigaraki got which is saying a lot.

Actually rewatching the film and rereading the manga one-shot has showed me that nine and shigarakis arcs are pretty similar with nine's having a better execution and shigaraki having more wasted potential.

The movie sets it clear that nine and shigaraki are supposed to be foils for one another so it makes sense that they would share parallels. However, you would expect that by the time nine is defeated that shigaraki would naraatively prove to us that he is ultimately the better character but in truth he doesn't and nine's downfall by shigaraki ends up being quite disappointing to me.

Another problem within the narrative is also the lack of interactions that nine and shigaraki have. I think that nine is essential to helping shigaraki and start to infulence him to realise that he is just a puppet and should develop a goal outside of just destruction. If shigarakis goal stays as destruction then the destruction of what? Everything? And how would that benefit anyone including him?

Nine like you said meets his teammates and saves them. He sees his teammates suffer like him and chooses to help them and they choose to help him. There is a clear relationship being developed and all the characters come together for the same goal, with similar backgrounds and varying styles yet they work.

When nines team see him in distress they run to help him and vice versa. The team has trust and overall everything that a lot of the leauges dynamics and development lacks.

Nine seeks destruction but his path is clear. He seeks to liberate and let nature flow its course with the strong overtaking the weak and finally being leaders instead of feared and abused because they don't fit into the small little box that is the mha's status quo. Nine plans to get stronger while being fully conscious and knowing the consequences. He makes a logical and heroic decision where we see him realise that he is trading his own autonomy and agency in becoming a lab rat all in exchange for power and a slim chance at achieving his goal.

This is all contrasted with shigaraki and his actions. We don't see his goal of destruction develop into a much more consistent and precise idea like destroying the giver and status quo. We don't see shigaraki fully conscious to come to the conclusion that yes the doctor is evil but he needs power. We lack everything from shigaraki and the information of chapter 419 just makes his character worse as shigaraki was a lab rat through and through.

Horikoshi tries to make shigaraki the better character but nine outclassed him in every way possible from the traumatic beginnings, to the developed flawed goal and to the final bitter end where we see nine crumble due to various factors 1)shigarakis decay and 2) his illness whereas shigaraki dies due to afo still being a lab rat that fulfills his purpose.

All of this reminds me of the ask that said mha's manga ending is a sloppy edited 2nd movie ending (except I was only looking at it from a hero perspective but it even applies to the villains)

Nine deserved better!

My hero academia villains!