@mikeellee @kite2013
As you both notice, it's kind of funny how the interactions of Dr Garaki with both Nine and Shigaraki are such different in the way the scientist treats them (despite both are just lab rats in the end).
Because see how Garaki openly insults, disrespects and laughs of Shigaraki ideas in front of his supposed friends.
Garaki probably felt almost insulted for having to keep the game going just because AFO wants Shigaraki to have this illusion of free choice, when in reality he's just a kid which they still have in the palm of their hand.
Even after MVA when Garaki shows a bit more of tolerancy to Shigaraki for mantain the illusion, in the inside he still makes fun of him because obviously he's the only person to really know Shigaraki is just a vessel playing to be the super villain.
But then we have his interview with Nine...
Notice how the aptitude and demeanor of the doctor is completely the opposite of what we saw with Shigaraki.
Despite obviously he's offering Nine be part of a shady experiment, he acts strangely polite and even shows a bit of curiosity when Nine expose his motives to be part in the experiment.
But also, Garaki thinks Nine is a dangerous individual despite in theory he should be the one in control of the situation and unlike in Shigaraki's case, Nine is alone in front of the doctor.
The biggest difference on how Garaki view Nine and Shigaraki, is that in the first case he sees a real man with strong convictions and an indomitable will who could actually change the curse of the world if he's given the chance.
This is my headcanon, but I think Garaki saw in Nine's eyes the closet to AFO in spirit and convictions (and it's interesting how both of them have the same white/silver eyes, coincidende?).
But for Shigaraki?
He only sees a dumb kid who doesn't even understand the situation he's in. A more obvious puppet who can be used the way he likes.
Shigaraki never had any chance with Garaki.
Oh I forgot to mention, but it's also funny as hell how the doctor shows more respect to Dabi in their private conversations than he does with Shigaraki in the same situation.
This happens because just like Nine, Dabi was a dangerous person who can't be controled so easily by him. So at least it gives him a bit more of respect by the crazy doctor.
I mean why not? At least with Bakugou being a descendant of Kudo you can at least make a believable connection between them, rather than just "The importance of Bakugou in AFO fight is based on the fact he looks like the guy who stole his brother a century ago" which is dumb af.
Canon possum is a joke but one thing I never forget is how decay IS powerful, sure a powerful quirk with an idiot is not a good thing in many fronts but...
Cinder (I'm loving him already) has to know a guy who can decay stuff with one touch even if he is an idiot.
Would cinder be worried about the quirk ?
Again, shig is an idiot and a bad leader and all that but one thing we can't deny is he knows how to fight.
So I think cinder would make a point to avoid him like the plague.
In canon Cider is the kind of person who knows he shouldn't bite off more than he can chew, since after all his plan during his debut was to steal during a very specific moment in which heroes aren't present, so is more reward without having to fight and less risk.
It was just a coincidence that A.M was there with Bakugou and Todoroki.
I guess his mentality also applies to fight dangerous villains, and the lov had some big names attached them. Their reputation probably was enough for Cider to not have his gang involved with such group of psychos.
But... I disagree on Shigaraki being a good fighter.
Maybe before all the bs power ups given by the doctor he at least knew how do surprise attacks and such, but Decay being such a one-dimensional quirk also means the user doesn't require a lot of skill to put it in use. It is basically just run towards the enemy and touch for instakill.
Which became even more braindead post awakening. Like even Overhaul has more room to be creative and need skill to put in use.
Decay is just a broken and boring quirk that requieres nothing to be effective. Crusty asshole somehow manages to be more plain than he already was at first, is like he evolves in reverse.
Could you tell me your thoughts on Nine as a character? I rarely meet fans of his. If you would indulge me, How about a bit of a what if, where Nine replaces Shigaraki and Shigaraki is a footnote in Nine's story? IE, Tomura is a movie villain in this universe.
I can assure you it's the same for me 😅 Nine fans are a rare species, but here we are.
As for what I think about him as a character? Uf... where even start?
I really find him to be way more interesting and rich in themes than most people think.
On the sense most people seem to take him as a one note character whitout any interesting trait, and calling him incorrectly a "might makes right" guy which hey, is in part true but that's just the surface.
Another thing I don't agree with most people is that Nine ideology is a very basic "the survival of the finest and only the strong deserve to live".
That's not really true. There's multiple hints that reveal parts of his true nature, especially when we have his POV in his origin chapter:
It always istruck me how Nine claims that under his ideal world everyone should aim to make their own way to top by pure strength, but simultaneusly he steps to defend the people he sees as oppressed by an unfair society.
And while some people make the argument of "he only cares about the people with strong quirk", but think about this: how he even knows his friends for example were that strong even before meet them?
His story only show these persons at their lowest point on life, yet by pure instinct Nine decided help them and offer them a hand without really demand nothing in exchange.
When he rescued Chimera is particulary powerful because we know Nine gets ill by using his quirk, yet he had no problem on create a massive storm just to save Chimera from the people who intended to kill him for being an heteromorph.
I really think Nine uses his ideology as a sort of defense mechanism due the circunstances he lived through most of his life. Which is logical as he was an orphan abandoded at what seemed to be a public bathroom at birth, which is sick af.
And it also relates to this particular line of his chapter:
"Everything is already decided" while we saw him being a child alone and multiple ominous smiles.
It really gives me the feeling that Nine actually felt a lot of abandonement and insolation while growing giving him idea that only the strongest should rule over the world, but at the same it can't really take away his selfless nature.
The fact Nine knows he was being used by the doctor, yet the only thing he thinks about going through the process are his friends even correcting himself by say "is for create OUR ideal world" shows how much he actually values the people close to him, to what extremes he's willing to go for give them what he considers fair.
And it's so powerful how even with his body destroyed and crawling on the ground Nine still keeps moving by the sheer will to make real his dream world.
It's an interesting way in which he parallels Deku on how he fights even at the cost of sacrifice and destroy his body just for the people he loves.
Kinda ironic if you think about the fact Horikoshi make his way to try to portray Shigaraki as "a hero for villains" despite that idea doesn't fit him at all, when Nine was already an heroic villain who parallels Deku a way that is pretty organic and logical.
I said a lot of times how funny is that is a fraction of time Nine not only executes the same ideas and concepts the main stroy try to apply to Shigaraki, but he does it better.
Nine story is really the story of an underdog who starts from the very bottom, having a really tragic life that molded his vision of a flawed world that should be destroyed, yet he feels very human on the way he relates to people on the same situation and he will do everything for them.
Is what really sells Nine as a character for me. None of these things are stated trying to convince us they happen like with Shigaraki, with Nine this stuff just... happen. Is the most basic show don't tell.
I wonder were that subtle and smart storytelling went in the main story.
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Oh also, as you asked about the what if scenario, I have a slightly different idea for an AU in which Nine position is inverted with Shigaraki.
But rather than make it a shallow rivalry (as the movie kinda implies they have) I was thinking: what it Nine intends to save Shigaraki instead?
As I said before, is part of Nine's nature to help people no one else would do.
If he found Tenko Shimura that day he will attempt to rescue him and protect him while living both in the streets as homeless orphans. Which is ironic because they're likely a very similar age, just with Nine being slighty older apparently.
And what if they both are later found by AFO and he has ideas for both of them?
AFO will still have his main plan to make one of them "the next me" like in canon, in this case Nine being the candidate because our potato weirdo projects himself and Yoichi into Nine thinking the child is what both would be together.
Problem is... Nine isn't a emotionally disturbed kid who can be manipulated by AFO bs, so obviously when he realizes what are the man true intentions Nine will rebel and fight back. Probably escaping, as he and AFO aren't really compatible at all.
It's ironic as AFO is actually what Nine tried to convince himself he is, but in reality AFO is a selfish lunatic who only uses everyone for his own sake. That would make Nine have a lot of introspection and realizes he doesn't want to follow AFO steps, and neither wants Tenko/Tomura to have that fate.
But as probably Nine could escape alongside Tenko, he becames the next big opportunity on AFO plans, being manipulated into something similar to canon or even worse.
While Nine will still fight and try to save the kid he helped that day, perhaps he will came to late and if something like the island incident happens but using Shigaraki as the villain there, he probably will die being a defining moment of Nine developement as a character.
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Well that was a bit long.
I could write even more, but that would be me going crazy and making a long bible lol.
Hope you enjoy the what if scenario. It's a bit improvised because I didn't think about the details yet, just a very basic storyline structure.
Deku, we know you're into the sexy italian butler. But you shouldn't grab his tits like that.
Izuku is a menace...
We need to talk more about the fact Tengen paited his foot nails
Also they like to tease us showing his legs...
I sort of love the idea of Cider being the kind of guy which mindset is "Thiefs used to have standards" while he beats the shit out of Compress.
I think he and Gentle would actually appreciate each other moral codes.
Nagant is the team? I usually pair her with the Shie Hassaikai, because her interactions with Chisaki make me appreciate her more, but I get the idea of her being with other villains with morals.
His line "I'm a man who lives for the thrill" lives in my mind now. Rent free. He is a bold but smart man.
I was wondering...what it he goes to steal smth in UA? Not sure on what he could steal but hey why not? That would be a huge blow to their egos.
Plot twist. Izumi beats him first and she is the one to invade UA and stole SMTH - it was crucial for her plans- BK tried to downplayed so hard but hates how everyone is impressed.
No idea of what he would steal, but if he and Izu converge the same day with the same plan of steal some shit and they're like "wtf are you doing here?".
They almost start fighting but then Bakugou appears and tries to capture them screaming "Die!" as usual, but then Izu and Cider join forces and humilliate BK in public in the U.A grounds. A hard hit for his ego.
That would be also a moment for fall into a spiral of love and horniness for our thiefs.
I have headcanons of a YoDeku boxing AU, here they are:
Yo Shindo and Izuku start as rivals in the boxing ring, with Yo being initially skeptical of Izuku's abilities.
Without anyone knowing, Yo has a secret fake profile page, where he praises and idolizes Izuku, always talking about his fights and the green-haired guy's muscular body.
During the weigh-in of the first fight, Izuku remained serious, while Yo had a relaxed smile, but both were super nervous inside (Both were like ``Oh no, my opponent is very hot´´)
In the first fight, Izuku knocked out Yo, after the fight, he came to apologize, but Yo, still dazed from the punch, says that the moment Izuku threw the punch was the sexiest memory he had ever seen in someone, leaving Izuku even more embarrassed.
Their favorite moment during the fight is when they both get into a clinch, even after the end of the round, they both remain hugging each other, as it is an excuse to stay close to each other.
Yo Shindo and Izuku have become fans of each other, they always go to each other's fights to cheer each other on, even during the locker room, Yo and Izuku like to promise prizes if the fight ends in victory.
Yo Shindo was (besides Shoto) the one who consoled Izuku after his knockout defeat against Bakugou (Even though the blond made a dirty move, he bought the judge to give him the victory). Yo and Shoto promised to help Izuku train for his rematch.
After defeating Bakugou and winning the title, Izuku, in a moment of euphoria, gives Yo a big kiss, shocking everyone in the fight, they both laugh and continue the fun at home.
What do you think?
Based on my very limited knowledge about boxing, I really like the scenario.
If I had to add something I guess Midoriya is all serious about the sport because he wants to be like his A.M who in this universe would be like the world champion or something like that. While Shindo probably wants him to calm down a bit because he knows going super hard since the very beginning isn't good for a long term career.
Bakugou is the villain for YoDeku? Lol I'm so used to see it being the other way around that is nice to see the blonde asshole as the villain for once.
They celebrating BK defeat with a night of passion is way to perfect.
Can totally imagine Shindo having a public profile in which he leaves some likes for Midoriya at best, yet his secret fake profile is basically a simp account. That totally fits with him.
They should totally have a Rocky style training montage, it's just classic.
I don't mind ships with age difference if the character is a teen or so (not a literal little kid).
I mean this is harmless fiction and it is supposed to be used to touch themes are impossible in our reality. There's a reasons stories like Lolita exist, because fiction allows us to enjoy problematic and tabu topics in a safe way.
So yes, you can explain that AU as seem like an interesting choice for a ship.
Your Dabi certainly looks more complex than mine, but that's probably because I enjoy his initial simplicity and in my vision of the story Dabi isn't that important overall so his presence doesn't justify a more complex characterization.
I'm not even the biggest fan of Dabi in terms of looks, but always found very weird how the anime constantly makes him look way more defined and with bigger muscles than he has in the manga.
Isn't a bit contradictory for his character to look super ripped? Horikoshi clearly drawn Dabi in that specific way because the story makes emphasis on his body being more frail due having a weak constitution, also contrasting him to the rest of mens in the family who got the big and strong constitution of Enji, Natsuo especially. The anime just lose all the meaning behind that.
And this is more of a personal preference but I find Dabi's body in the manga to look much more attractive and less generic than in the anime. Skinny guys can look attractive as well.
Hi @nyc3
Thanks for the ask bc it's so fitting as I was thinking about how the fandom sees dabi and mr. Possum.
Let me start with this. Have you seen how in the Tumblr the tags of dabi x reader and shig x reader there a HUGE contrast in quality? Shig is depicted as a creepy and weirdo incel while Dabi IS "I'LL STEAL YOUR WIFE😏"
now on a controversial take. I do like the idea of dabi losing his scars. Why? Would increase his quality of life...I find odd how everyone in LoV accepts Dr. Evil's word and never try to take a second opinion. Also, without the scars Dabi would look way more like Endy making his claim be more powerful.
(not a fan of erasing Shig's scars nor the "crusty" jokes. Shig is handsome with his scars)
Now onto your ask: I think Bones just like to make characters hot in a conventional way, JJK men got to be hotter than the manga. But I do notice how bones lacks in translate the manga to anime. Some of the scenes of the manga were done so dirty.
Dabi became hotter aka buffer bc of this. Btw, many dabi x reader like to make the reader have a healing quirk (it should be a trope by now) just so it can heal dabi...which no one account that dabi IS self destructive, a healing quirk is nice but he would do again...unless he changes his mindset (I'm trying to explore this in my fic called besties)
Ask yourself: did shig NEEDED to be buffaraki? Was afo the quirk really need you to be buff?
(was necessary for Izu to gain muscles? Maybe, maybe not)
So to answer: Dabi is attractive in any shape. His writing trumps over shig any day even if shig IS more attractive than Dabi.
Powerful and aesthetically pleasing couple.
Also Midoriya surely loves to put his hand around Giulio waist.
Our Deku is such a naughty boy.
He's having such a trip with each movie.
This was the most whelsome trend in the history of Tumblr
tiny yoichi reading his little comic...!
Fellas, it is weird to find collarbones to be extremely attractive?
Cause I do like them...
I wish I have more collarbone pics of Nine...
And not from MHA but Eren certainly has some sexy looking collarbones:
My mind goes crazy right now.