I don't usually reblog from people who want to "debate" the existence of transandrophobia or dismiss the issues trans men face because I think it's more important to center transmasc/trans men's voices in this conversation.
But this is a reminder that if I DO engage with someone like that on here, DO NOT harass them! Also, don't try to argue with someone who's committed to seeing everything you say in the worst possible light. Just block and move on.
pride includes trans men and transmascs btw
trans men and transmascs deserve to be proud of their manhood and masculinity
this is not up for debate
straight transmasc people i love you so much and your attraction to women is not inherently "icky" or "dirty" or whatever other word terfs are trying to throw into the queer community nowadays
"Men aren't oppressed for being men"
Trans men are real men. Trans manhood is real manhood. Trans men are oppressed for being trans men.
You're just a transphobe who hasn't actually internalized trans manhood as real manhood.
You only view manhood as an oppressive force rather than a real, genuine identity someone can feel connected to. This is transphobic.
You don't value the full scope of trans men's experiences as we define them for ourselves. You want us to sit down, shut up and let others make the decisions for us. Something most of us have been told all of our lives but is somehow progressive now that we're men....huh. Our voices are lifted up by feminist language for the misogyny we experience before we transition and then we're thrown out on the curb when we transition. We're "on thin ice" while we're pressured to self flagellate and be ashamed of our identity and when we begin to talk about the complexities of our issues we have our experiences flattened and dismissed.
You can't say trans men are men and try to dissect the trans part from the man part. You are inclined to do this because you have anti-transmasculine biases. Our experiences are the experiences of men, marginalized men who are not valued by the system.
Stop only supporting trans men and trans women because you sexualize us. That's not as progressive as you think it is.
Support trans lives, not because we're hot, but because we're trans. And also hot.
"a tiny fraction of transmascs are able to exploit the patriarchal system and in certain situations by going stealth they may benefit from material privileges" has become "all transmascs have male privilege and they do not experience misogyny and also they all hate trans women and they want to abuse us"
i think some of yall need to learn the warning signs of becoming a reactionary because this is some alarming shit
Tagging something like this as "fight me" then turning off reblogs and whining about people calling you a terf is a new degree of pathetic.
Also didn't this person block every trans woman who told him to stop?
Sure you ain't a terf, man?
Ironically, reblogs were off..
But let it be known that nobody ever said this and this entire fuckinb post is filled witb radfem shit.
Lying about who invented forcefem and forcemasc being a copy of it is one of the weirder manifestations of the weird aggressive radfem claim to everything under the sun but far from the only one.
Trying to trademark "eggs" for transfems is a fundamental refusal by radfems to see anyone else as trans. Even assuming it's true that it started specifically with trans women and it was ever exclusive for more than five seconds after it's creation, which would like to see some evidence for but am not holding out much hope considering it definitely fucking wasn't, it's completely absurd to act like the basic concept of a name for a concept like that should be exclusive to begin with. The only justification for it is that you don't think other trans people have any kinna journey like that to go through in the first place. What the hell else are they supposed to call it? Literally, what combination of words other than "egg" is a good metaphor for that situation?
And the answer to this conundrum is just that they don't want other trans people to have a word period. Radfems don't think other trans people are trans. Radfems do not believe it's possible to want to be a man or the desire to be a man to have any inherent worth, because dysphoria has fully taken control of their every waking thought and can only conceptualize trans people AFAB as bitches who are making fun of them by pretending to want to be something they desperately want to escape from and project their fear they're not a Trve Wymyn on to everyone else so they can reinforce their own shaky faith in their gender identity. You wouldn't see radfems saying things like "those AFAB cunts are evil for saying all the time that binary trans women have boring genders [fabrication] but actually we know more than anyone about gender because of transmisogyny" if they were not dealing with a psychological wound that's bleeding all over every post they make.
And, of course, radfems count any trans person AMAB as "TMA," which is essentially a way of labeling them Trans Women With Extra Steps. Have you seen a non-binary tee-em-ay that did not also identify as woman? Because I sure haven't! They surely exist, somewhere, but every one I've seen is also fem, and there's nothing wrong with that nor does it make them less non-binary, but it's very telling about TMA/TME culture and it's views on transfemininity, and what trans people AMAB who aren't also fem tend to think of that whole framework.
Isn't it such a strange coincidence that most of it tends to be super broad concepts that are in no way exclusive, in terms of material reality, to trans women, like "person who doesn't know they're trans yet"? If they ever were transfem exclusive, you'd get the idea that they were designed purely to bait people into picking it up just to yell at them for it, but what's actually happening is going after abso-fucking-lutely everything to tear people's language away as a power trip and feel like the most special queers to ever live.
But let's look at something less essential than terminology. Let's take the shark plushie. That, for one thing, has just provably never been transfem specific. Ever. Not once time in history, any claim otherwise is a deliberate lie. But even if it WERE, why? Why do you NEED it to be transfem specific? What about the shark plushie makes it transfem culture? What does that even MEAN? How do you signal a shark plushie is transfem culture? What exactly is happening when you see a trans man saying he put top surgery scars on his shark plushie? Can you explain to me why that's like watching your partner cheating on you? Besides that, do you understand this is a toy for toddlers that was never deliberately aimed at anyone queer? I genuinely so badly want to ask these extremely stupid people if in twenty years they'll scream at the hundreds of thousands of cis people who had one when they were four and were fond of it.
Like, it's wild, right? Because radfems will say on a regular basis "oh, they took the shark plushie, they took catgirls, they took forcefem, they took uhhhh flips to a random page of a book on a compilation of queer shitposts pumpkin fucking." And then, in their next breath, they'll go on about how transmascs make nothing but inferior degenerate art of no value.
They know we, trans women, have culture besides that shit, right? Drawn art? Film? Video games? Literature, too, even though every transfem book I've heard of sounds terrible, since I know that's only because I haven't ever looked for more. Like, I know good transfem books are OUT THERE if only people would discuss the ones that aren't about testosterone turning you into a feral monster or being gifted Trve Biological Wymynhood by the gods, as though that doesn't display some sickeningly bioessentialist transmed trends among the radfems on this website.
There is so much good transfem culture people could be uplifting instead! But instead they go with transradfem culture, which, let's be clear, is not representative of trans women or our actual, authentic cultural output, and is mostly bought off the shelf at Walmart.
Like, oh, wow, if trans radblr is supposed to be transfem culture then I guess transfem culture is a bunch of fucking shallow memes, kinks, and literal baby toys. Great cultural output, girls! Great going! Truly the ZENITH of human civilization! They'll put down transmasc music every other day but I'm pretty sure just about anyone with a pulse could fuck around with a middle school recorder for a few minutes that has more artistic value than the transradfem culture that radfems act like hyper-defensive weirdos about.
Which includes a bunch of slurs for others, which is funny, because on one hand you're like, hey, this word originated on 4chan, and they're like "no, trans women invented it," and you're like, yeah, those aren't mutually exclusive ideas, maybe rethink that line of defense Birdgirl because you're going to get your client in even worse trouble here. Maybe instead say that yes, it was invented by transphobes for transphobes, but you're choosing to appropriate this 4chan slur anyway because you're jealous some non-binary people were invited to a concert you wouldn't have gone to anyway. That'd be at least a little more honest than inventing this false history where it was created specifically because of the pain and trauma of some non-binary people being invited to a concert you wouldn't have gone to anyway. Or at least that I hope you wouldn't have gone to even if you had been extended an invite.
Like, instead of celebrating real transfem culture that does actually exist, radfems incapable of creating their own stuff just want to grab everything in sight and plant a transradfem flag on it, which makes the definition of transfemininity and transfem culture they want to push all the more grotesquely empty.
I wonder if the transfems that hate on trans men and transmascs realize that demonizing masculinity actually harms their masculine transfem sisters, as well as closeted/pre-E transfems as well.
crazy to me how some people think conversion torture/forced detransition is actually a privilege when it happens to trans men/mascs
On the topic of trans men experiencing erasure and other problems that are not talked about, we should probably talk about when we actually DO get recognized and it's usually the white skinny trans men who get the most recognition. Which, is awesome and I'm not complaining because getting any recognition is a win. But we need to start also having our black poc, asian, native, hispanic, etc brothers in mind if you have not done so already. They have been erased from history even more than us. The same goes for the fat plus size men, the men who don't pass either because they can't or just don't want to (which is valid!), the men who can't transition or feel comfortable in their agab body (which is also valid), the men who are femme presenting, the men who are butch, men who are disabled etc etc.
Listen to when your black poc, asian, hispanic, native, etc men SPEAK. Listen to them. Listen to the men who are severely underrepresented in our community. Don't you DARE tell them to sit down or shut them out when speaking up about their experiences as trans men. If you see it shut it down immediately! That toxic shit is not safe in our spaces and we will not be quiet about it.
Keep our brothers safe!
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