FINALLY someone who sees Squirrelflight the same way I do, not as the saint the fandom makes her out to be, but a character whose in the wrong and needs to get her shit together. I'm sorry but she and Brambleclaw have issues sure, but Bramble isn't just the one in the wrong. The fandom treats him like he's the devil (they treat Ashfur the same way, when I personally think his arc was interesting taking into account he found his mother as dog bait when he was a child and was basically left parentless, he and ferncloud took it very differently, fern going and becoming a mother to everyone and Ash trying to find love somewhere else and then getting rejected. Did he take it too far yeah, he did ofc but it's interesting to look at the psychology behind it) this fandom treats Squirrel and Leaf like their saints and can do no wrong but from where I see it. . .they cause plenty of the problems. Like why didn't they tell bramble about the three? How hard would that have been to tell squirrels mate, someone she trusts, what's going on?
since we talking about the morality/ goodness of Squirrelflight and Leafpool (and Brambleclaw and Ashfur) now I thought I would group these together and just ramble about Squirrel and Leafpool for a bit
I personally think that Squirrelflight and Leafpool are good people who had to make hard decisions that would inevitably hurt people in the hopes of protecting each other and their loved ones.
These two live in basically a cult and had to do some crazy shit to protect Leaf and her kits, and I don't blame them for what they chose to do in the situation they were put in. Were there ways that could have possibly been better? Ya probably, but they aren't evil for choosing to do what they did.
Also Squilf hurt the 3 by not telling them they were adopted, but also I feel like that's where her crimes end. Like Brambleclaw has been shown to be an abusive prick so I wouldn't blame Squirrel for not wanting to tell him the truth, especially when he's Thunderclan's deputy. I have a hard time believing he would have gone along with their plan, and he probably would have done something cruel and stupid if they told him. Yes him finding out did hurt him so I guess that's a crime in a way, but i really dont think Squirrel had any other options in that department.
I think out of Squirrel and Leaf, leaf is much more in the wrong here (love her and her bad decisions tho hehe). She had like some of the most illegal babies ever due to some really bad decisions (even if its unfair that her relationship was illegal) and then she let her sister take on most of the responsibility of dealing with her mistakes. Squirrelflight could have had a chill scandal-less life, but instead she took in her sister's kits and lied to the clan and her mate all to protect Leaf, when it wasn't even her problem and Leaf didn't stop her. Leaf didn't take on much responsibility for her mistakes, she just let Squif do that. I understand why but still if there's anyone to be mad it its Leaf and her bad decision making skills lol
I really love how complex their situation is, its probably one of the most interesting things that has happened in warriors. Its complicated, and the characters involved are good people who made bad decisions, and hard decisions. They wanted to protect the people they loved and it inevitably failed. I love a good tragic drama.
these two sisters are some sad soggy meow meows
I could go on even longer but I wont, could prob expand on Leafpool opinions too but i shall stop here.
momwing
Little guys they don't know what they are doing I love them 😭😭😭
I once asked the following question on BlogClan:
Leafpool is getting plumper, avoiding others, and possibly having changes in her eating habits and/or smelling odd. She and Squirrelflight go on a journey outside the territories for a couple of weeks to look for a herb that StarClan supposedly sent her a vision about. They come back a couple of weeks later with three kits who do not look a thing like Brambleclaw or Squirrelflight.
But! Lionblaze and Jayfeather are both tabbies like Leafpool. Lionblaze has amber eyes like Leafpool. Hollyleaf had black fur, just a little darker than Crowfeather-Leafpool says straight out that she’s the image of Crowfeather, and even wanted to name her after him until Squirrelflight talked her out of it-and incidentally if they’re doing this whole charade to hide whose kits they really are, was she seriously planning on naming her Crowkit? But anyway-and Jayfeather has gray fur, a little lighter than Crowfeather’s, and blue eyes, like Crowfeather’s.
Nobody had known that Squirrelflight was expecting kits. Not even Brambleclaw or Sandstorm. Squirrelflight certainly hadn’t looked like she was expecting kits. And yet she went on a journey while expecting! This was explained away as the kits being born very early. But even Brambleclaw didn’t know?
Squirrelflight had no milk, necessitating the kits being nursed by Ferncloud-what did she tell the Clan they had done for the past couple of weeks while they were in the woods? And she recovered from the birth extremely quickly. And they didn’t come back with that herb either!
ThunderClan isn’t that obtuse. How in the name of StarClan did nobody realize anything?
The answer I got was “plot convenience.”
Fandom Crowfeather: Wants his ex wife, current wife and children to die, abusive emotionally and physically apparently? People taking scenes of him out of context to make him look like a bigger asshole. Hates everyone and needs to pay for his ex hiding the fact that she was pregnant, something of which he had no involvement in.
Canon Crowfeather: A guy who is trying to distance himself from his ex (badly) while dealing with an overprotective and jealous wife and their angry, violent son. Doesn’t have the best attitude or temper, but he’s still trying to patch up his past mistakes behind the scenes since the Erins can’t take their focus off of ThundedClan for 5 seconds.
I will fucking strangle Bramblestar with my own hands. If you think hes good get the fuck out you disgusting piece of shit.
I finished it. This takes place when dovewing leaves thunderclan
I finished it. This takes place when dovewing leaves thunderclan
Who can actually like this character?!
Y’all remember when Sunrise was bleeding out in Thunderclan camp and Bramblestar refused to let Leafpool treat her? And Leafpool couldn’t sit idle and let her die so she gets up to treat her and Bramblestar leaps in front of Leafpool to intimidate her into submission? And Squirrelflight thinks he’s going to attack her? Yeah…