Many people are of the opinion that some of the abuses that C!Dream faces are in some way justified or excusable. Which, no! Abuse is never okay! But lets put that aside for one moment. Lets pretend that yes, c!dream being subject to solitary confinement is defensable due to the moral boundaries that he’d crossed. That he posed such a threat to other people, that he was bad enough of a person, that his rights are now null and void.
Where do we draw the line? I’m genuinely curious, at what point in the storyline did people no longer think he deserved adequate living conditions? What action did he take that then made it perfectly okay for him to be cut off from any form of support network? What moment meant that his canonical self harm could then be dismissed as attention seeking?
And if we’ve now established that there is some point when abuse is justified, surely that logic must be applied universally? What action would c!tommy have to take where exile was okay? Where is that line in the sand?
The logic behind excusing the conditions of pandoras vault is the same behind justifying the exile arc.
Tw torture /rp
Quackity learns from Sam that Dream likes to touch the lava sometimes, “for attention,” Sam says, or to disturb visitors.
At his next visit, Q forces him into the lava, over and over. Normally Dream would step in for a moment, then run back to the respawn pool to put himself out, but Quackity won’t let him.
When Q leaves, Dream presses himself against the wall on the far side of the cell, as far from the lava as he can get. It used to be “exhilarating,” but now the thought of touching it makes him sick.
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hey guys... just an idea... torture is, bad?
The removal of all positive traits from c!dream is harmful to abuse survivors.
Abusers are not terrible 100% of the time. Many are leading community members, or known for their charisma and friendliness.
It is an incredibly common narrative that people doubt that they were actually abused, as the perpetrator displayed kindness and positive traits, to both their victims and other people.
When abuse victims do come forward, their experiences are often denied by people who had a good experience with the abuser.
Allowing c!dream not only makes for a more compelling narrative and character, but it also makes it easier for people to identify abusers.
Maybe you still think c!dream is evil, and that’s okay. But evil has a human face.
‘C!dream doesn’t like c!techno! He’s just using him!’ - what???? He literally stood up to his torturer for c!techno??
Wedding Waltz commission :-)
Special thanks to @squimp who helped me SO much with designing Garak’s outfit!!!
The weakest links are those who hold all the same beliefs as all of us here on dreblr, and yet refuse to call themselves c!dream apologists.
If it walks like a duck...
when will people stop saying that c!dream is manipulating c!ranboo,,
If c!dreams imprisonment and subsequent torture wasn’t done in the name of authority, would people have a bigger issue with it?
By that I mean, if c!sam had held c!dream captive in his basement, and never used any terms such as ‘warden’.
Institutionalised abuse is so normalised as a foundation of the prison system, and I think many viewers haven’t done any critical thinking on where their thoughts on pandoras vault truly come from.
the fact I’m currently typing up a whole research document in order to defend c!dream,, I’m most definitely waay too invested
sometimes I remember the fact that c!quackity canonically brought shears with him to pandoras vault and I have to go and lie down
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