If People Really Wanted To Keep C!dream From Hurting People, They Would Focus On Rehabilitation, Not

If anyone asks me abt the origin of my potato knowledge, how tf do I explain that it’s because of a green blob man???

what do you mean doing extensive research into the effects of a potato only diet isn’t normal? I know only c!dream angst

The weakest links are those who hold all the same beliefs as all of us here on dreblr, and yet refuse to call themselves c!dream apologists.

If it walks like a duck...

Burning hot take:

I’m not usually one for pain olympics, but since people keep saying that c!dream’s actions towards others are justification for his torture I gotta say it.

The prison is worse that exile

I somewhat disagree, as trauma is subjective- however I absolutely agree that the prison is a clear escalation. And even if exile was ‘worse’ that doesn’t make any further mistreatment okay!

both c!tommy and c!sapnap have said that Pandora's vault is a fate worse then death

I need someone to edit that one community meme so it says ‘i can excuse torture but i draw the line at manipulation’

The reason I bring this up is because when c!sapnap visited c!dream in prison, c!dream wrote that he’d get out eventually, and c!sapnap responded with-

‘No, dude. You can’t. Look, I love you, man, but you- you gotta stay here. This is where… this is where you belong for now. Maybe… Maybe one day if everyone’s cool with it.’

Does c!dream truly believe that anyone's’ opinions will ever change? In that same visit, c!sapnap then promises he’d kill him himself if he escaped. His best friend could vow to kill him, why would anyone else show him ‘mercy’?

C!dream knew that imprisonment hadn’t been implemented with any plans to release him.  He would have had his final life taken if it weren’t for his last piece of leverage, the revive book.

C!dream has to hold out hope for escape for his own sanity. The alternative is spending the rest of his life in torturous conditions.

Was c!dream told about this chance of release for good behaviour that c!sapnap mentioned?

thinking abt critiquing the entire existence of the revenge trope as it pertains to pandoras vault,, someone hype me up i need the confidence boost

It’s really fun being in a fandom who can’t decide what words mean. Apologist? Sympathiser? NO ONE CAN COME TO A CONSENSUS ON THE DEFINITION OF THESE WORDS! I see them completely swap meaning regularly- you can no longer just use the term, you also have to explain your interpretation of it.

c!tommy has flaws ≠ he deserves abuse.

this is very much subjective- and informed by own journey of dealing with abuse. I hope this makes sense, and I am very much open to other (respectful) opinions.

~The ‘revenge fantasy’ is a storyline I am somewhat sick of seeing! If someone finds them cathartic or helpful, that is wonderful; and everyone is allowed to have different relationships with media. I just want to see other story lines, for a number of reasons.

‘Getting even’ with ones abuser/s isn’t always feasible. Whether through legal means, or taking matters into your own hands, victims/survivors don’t always have that ability. The statistics on SA show this very clearly- the rate of convictions is appallingly low. For many, their abuser may pass away before ever facing the consequences of their actions. In addition, people don’t always want justice/revenge. In many ways, leaving no space for your abuser is the most helpful thing to do. Others may not find revenge satisfying. Especially after the focus and limelight in media, the actual emotional impact maybe somewhat of a letdown. One persons suffering does not erase anothers. Seeing ones abuser be hurt, it doesn’t undo the damage they’ve done, nor does it necessarily stop them from hurting others in the future.

I am also not talking about measures taken that prevent anymore people being hurt, that ensure abusers won’t have anymore victims. There are absolutely some people whose freedom must be taken away for the safety of others. But I will always be more in favour of options that work to rehabilitate. My veiw on the application of the prison system is that it should be about protecting people, not punishing them. I am far more interested in a narrative that centres solely around recovery, around someone rebuilding their life and relationships with no room for the person who hurt them. That makes clear that the abuser was a big part of their past, but won’t be a big part of their present or future.

Let me make this clear- I am not saying that getting justice is bad. I am saying that it is not essential.

Storylines of revenge 100% have their place, but framing them as an essential step in the healing process is not helpful.

thinking abt critiquing the entire existence of the revenge trope as it pertains to pandoras vault,, someone hype me up i need the confidence boost