If Someone Uses All Pronouns That Does Not Mean You Choose The Ones You Decide Best Suit Them.

If you think c!dream deserves torture because ‘he doesn’t have any empathy’, you are not an ally to autistic people.

Fandom critical-

I think some c!tommy apologists who are also c!dream antis don’t think ANYONE is allowed to like morally grey characters. In order to like c!tommy, they feel as though he can’t have any flaws. That if he’s both a bit of a dick sometimes and still their favourite character, it’s a moral failing on their part. And if they have to make c!tommy perfect in order to like him, how can they let others appreciate c!dream?

I’ve seen a lot of people say that c!dreams behaviour in pandoras vault is him ‘manipulating’ everyone, and whilst I personally don’t think so, I wouldn’t care if he was. Even if he is altering his demeanour to illicit sympathy- it’s for the goal of avoiding torture? So many of c!dreams actions are unjustifiable, but that is most certainly not one of them.

If during exile, c!tommy had been lying to his visitors or to c!dream with the end goal of securing his freedom, that would be 100% understandable. If his suicidal ideation had been an act to bring about the end of exile, these actions would have been seen as clever, as a smart tactic c!tommy was utilising. Most people would see this manipulation as a way of escaping his abuser.

In addition, if someone is self harming ‘for attention’, it still counts as self harm and needs to be taken seriously. The fact that c!dream is in such a desperate situation that he has committed suicide multiple times is extremely worrying-regardless of any other outcomes he is attempting to achieve.

A study on over 200,000 prison inmates showed that whilst making up just 7% of the prison population, those in solitary confinement made up 53% of all recorded acts of self harm.

There is a possibility that these statistics show correlation, and not causation. That those placed in solitary confinement were already those more likely to reoffend, and with pre-existing mental health problems. However this argument is refuted when looking at other observable effects on the brain. 

A 2018 study showed that after just one month of isolation, in the sensory and motor parts of  mice's’ brains, their neurons shrunk by 20 percent after one month of isolation, and by 25 percent after three months. Further research is needed to determine if this loss is permanent, as well as looking for other areas of change. 

C!dream antis will really argue that torture is fine as long as the character has done enough things wrong, and then call us the abuse apologists

thinking about c!dreams clock once again

Constantly throwing it away makes so much sense, beyond just as a way to see c!sam.

The constant ticking only serves to let him feel every second of his time imprisoned. To know exactly how many days he’s been locked away, that’s a torture all on it’s own. But so would ignorance. To be unsure of how much time has passed between each delivery of food rations. Are they coming further apart now? C!sam comes to give him a new clock and says its been only a day, but he’d been so sure a week had passed.

an effect of solitary confinement is paranoia. C!dream begins to suspect his clock has been tampered with. It speeds up, slows down. Surely it hasn’t been that long yet? And yet, surely its been longer?

he cares too much about this inanimate object. Anytime he realises that he couldn’t bare to have it taken from him, he destroys it himself.

uhhh so a bunch of transphobes found my post send help

Saying that someone is worthy of torture/ it won’t affect them because they are a ‘psychopath’ is Not Cool.

A c!dream who, after prison, is fine.

He’s not really. Deep down he is so so hurt- but he doesn’t act like it. Because showing that he’s hurt, not just physically but emotionally, means that c!sam and c!quackity won. It means that other people will see his weakness, know that he’s an easy target. Now that he’s out, that he can see the sun, go a day without torture, he’s gotten himself under control. No more pathetic displays. (And maybe, c!dream doesn’t think he’s allowed to feel bad- are monsters entitled to emotions?)

Some people don’t believe that anything happened to c!dream at all. Prison was a mercy, one they’d been forced into granting him, and how dare anyone suggest he was hurt. Because who could remain that unaffected after torture?

Others think it’s true, see the evidence in c!dreams injuries, or a confession from c!sam or c!quackity. But it doesn’t matter. C!dream isn’t traumatised, so who cares? He was an un caring monster, a psychopath incapable of emotion. No one could hurt him, so it didn’t matter if they tried.

What do we think c!dreams limbo is?