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i know this is old but i wanted to add that the creator when asked what ship he would choose he chose zim x gaz but apparently he choose that because he wanted to piss off zadr fans????? like dude if you find zadr weird why did you choose an equally weird ship to you?? with a person who is younger than dib??? you could have chosen anything else
but in all honesty if you don't like the ship that's fine you don't have to just don't harass people when we don't have solid proof yet until we get like actual solid proof of zim being an adult in earths terms I'm going to do what I like
but I do not like or condone sex or 18+ art or any type of media of adult actions like that with zadr cuz both of them are minors.
they're going to rule the world, hold hands and find comfort in each other and that's it >:]
I continue to see more people argue over Zimās age (as well as the age of other irkens at times) with some claiming heās an adult and others saying heās a child/teen. I havenāt seen a lot of the reasons why people believe heās an adult but hereās a statement made by Jhonen Vasquez in a commentary video that Iāve seen come up before: āThe saddest thing is Zim is not a kid. Heās not a little kid. He acts like it but heās like an old man basically.ā
I see that he says āZim is not a kidā and compares him to more of an old man but Iām not sure if this is confirmation that Zim is actually old for an irken. His exact age is kind of a mystery and though many say that heās 160 earth years (or 16 irken years) I canāt be entirely sure about how reliable those sources are despite so many believing Jhonen said this. However, we can still predict that heās not that old from what we see in the show and comics. In the comics, weāve been able to see what more elderly irkens would look like in both issue 28 and 23, with Zim looking nothing like them.
Also, in issue 12, we see what Zim would look like in the future, (we could say 70+ years into the future based off how the baby gir took aged, though this could be a continuity error) where he actually looks and acts more mature, as if heās now grown up. The future Zim even tells his younger self, āI canāt believe I was ever as young and stupid as you are!ā like an adult would looking back at their adolescence.
Now looking at Jhonenās statement again, he does say Zim isnāt a kid but notice that after he says, āThe saddest thing is Zim is not a kidā he also rephrases it right after saying āHeās not a little kidā, as if trying to correct himself and specify that Zim is not a little kid. He could still be considered adolescent but not a very young child. Besides, Jhonen was only saying this as a little comment to a scene in the episode he was watching, saying this after Zimās plan failed and he began acting childish to prove it was all intended and he still won, like a jealous little kid would.
In the show and canceled episodes, thereās still no solid evidence for either side of the argument but I have tried to make a point before that shipping Zim with one of the skool kids (specifically Dib) is not pedophilia using āTak: The Hideous New Girlā as evidence and what I said was the following; ā..the show was never intended for romance which is kind of shown in āTak the Hideous New Girlā yet also shows that if Zim assumed Tak was a normal skool kid heād be a pedophile in that episode if he really was an adult.ā
Of course, Tak ended up being irken too so okay, Iāll let the āhe thought she was a skool kidā thing slide, but later, the episode presents more material to work with in figuring out his age. When Tak explains her backstory of how Zim ruined her life she said these two things: āIt was fifty years ago, on the Irken military training planet, Devastis. I had been waiting years to take my final test to become one of the Irken elite soldiers and, should the need arise⦠to become one of the invadersā and āI pleaded with the control brain to let me take the test, but she said I would have to wait another seventy years.ā Judging by what she said, we get the number 120 from adding the years she prepared for her test (70) and how long ago it was since she tried to take the test (50). Assuming she wasnāt actually 70 at the time and that when she was preparing for the final test she wasnāt doing it her entire life, we can add maybe 30 years and that still means sheād be just 150. If she really is 120 and Zim is just older or maybe they are the same age and around the 150 i predicted, that means the claim that Zim is 160 is pretty accurate and the ā10 earth years = 1 irk yearā idea is plausible. Interestingly enough, from what we can see in the canceled episode, āThe Trialā it is likely that the other irken characters Skoodge, Tallest Red and Tallest Purple are around Zimās age too and something youāll notice in them is that they all seem young just like him. For Skoodge, outside of the occasional dialogue and his young appearance like Zimās, thereās not much to say while the Tallests make more of the point here. Both the Tallests are immature despite their role as leaders, which came relatively earlier to them since Zim accidentally killed the previous Tallests, making Red and Purple take over.
Some people will say here āwell irkens can just be childish like that, but they all still work in jobs so the ones we see are adults, right?ā Fair point, but I still believe not all of them are and this idea can still be debunked. In the show, itās obvious that they have far longer life spans (which is where the 10 earth years = 1 irk year thing may come from) and with their need to constantly move forward, train and conquer I highly doubt that they wait for their smeets to grow up and likely make them train and work as early as possible. As soon as they finish training and pass the test mentioned by Tak, they immediately start their work regardless of whether or not theyāre actually mature. For all we know maybe they are called āadultsā on irk but by earth standards they wouldnāt be, since on our planet, we wait awhile to educate our children and then allow them to get a job.
(One more thing. Itās not from the comics, show, or jhonen but from the voice actors. At conventions, the voice actors of zim and dib both tried appealing the fans with zadr. They are pretty well known but Iāll explain them for those who donāt recall it. During a Mopiness of doom script reading, Richard Horwitz (Zimās voice actor) made a Zim puppet kiss Andy Bermanās (Dib) forehead where then the fans freaked out and the narrator on stage told Andy to put on the Dib puppet to make Zim and Dib kiss, where of course the puppets kissed and the audience got extremely excited. Another time a fan asked Andy Berman to say āI love you Zimā in Dibās voice and he did it. Iāve heard of some zagr stuff before but Iāve never actually seen it so i can only take peopleās word for it. But my point here is that if ships like zadr/zagr are pedophilic since some consider Zim an adult, then why would the people actually apart of the show be so willing and happy to support it? I know theyāre just trying to make the fans happy but if it was really that bad of a ship i donāt think they would like it.)
To answer the question, āIs Zim an adult or not?ā I believe he is not actually an adult or at least wouldnāt be as a human. Itās hard to understand the standards of an alien race but by my logic, I believe heās still pretty young, like a teenager maybe. When it comes to people shipping an irken like Zim with one of the earth characters that we know are kids (such as Dib, Gaz, Keef, or whoever people want to ship him with), I donāt believe that they are pedophilic ships and I donāt think the people shipping them are gross. There is the problem that Zim would age far slower but thatās something fans would deal with in fanfics, so they can do whatever with that concept.
Thatās all I have to say for now. Please understand Iām not trying to say I think anyone else is wrong, this is just my thought on the topic and I hope that you enjoyed reading my theory here.
(im sorry that this was soooo longg ;-;)
Saw this posted on Pinterest
reminded me of someone ā¦ā¦
well in that case..
some bonus art of a more accurate siren
Ok... either Dipper is making stuff up, this was foreshadowing, or an accident
Based off that post I made
based off a conversation with my friend (who plays skrimbleshanks)
I want there to be an episode of them in the new season where they take care of an egg or baby for a class project and while doing so they act like a divorced couple who still has feelings for each other but want to Ignore them but than rekindle there relationship at the end of the episode. Idk I miss them they didnāt deserve to break up. š
Also I hate how jay was seen as being fixed and thatās why Matthew broke up with him, Iāve seen him acted less chaotic and unstable in other episodes I think the only reason he started to act āfixedā is bcs he felt comfortable to like things different than whatās the norm in his house hold around Matthew
Any and all pronouns You can Send art requests:p(Mostly post of what ever Iām hyperfixating on within that week YouTube - little terrors Pinterest - the strawberry queenArt request are free right now:) I donāt draw animals.
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