Adding to this! (Sorry op)
HELENA IS THE CATHOLIC SCHOOL TEACHER WHO PROTECTS THE ALLEY not Jason
Jason is the one who will do whatever it takes to reach his goal no matter who is in the way
And NOBODY HATES TIM DRAKE, NOT DICK, NOT JASON, NOT DAMIAN HELL EVEN STEPH STILL LOVES HIM. STOP
Dick can investigate, spy, work and all the normal things(cooking, cleaning, laundry,taxes) you all seem to think he cannot do? Despite being
A) training longer than Damian was a alive
B) a professional acrobat longer than Tim’s been alive
C) a functioning adult man who has lived alone since he was 17
D) the leader of a team that was not funded by Bruce or ollie or any branch of the league. A team he kept funded via merchandising contracts and being a little meticulous
E) and I cannot stress this enough THE HEIR TO THE BATMAN LEGACY
Tiktok is basically the place where someone's biggest argument is "it's canon that x character does x thing," and it's the most fanon fact there is.
No, Dick wasn't a cop any longer than any of his other jobs... And he's not unemployed either, that guy's resume must be at least three feet long.
No, Jason's central personality trait is not protecting women and children, he does that, but not as a standout trait; that's Selina.
No, Tim is not a cold calculating genius. The guy can be quite the idiot or just the crazy one of the group (he's a bat for God's sake).
No, Damian wasn't raised by Jason in the league of assassins. No, he's not that same kid you saw when he was 10 either, he's already a teenager now.
No, Cass is not mute, she didn't know how to speak, but now she communicates quite well with minimal grammar errors like anyone else.
No, Duke doesn't hate Dick. He felt betrayed, yes, but he got over it and actually admires him. (And he's not normal, no one is).
No, Steph doesn't want to be Bruce's daughter... And yes, she did call Nightwing hot, lol.
And no, Bruce is not incapable of being surprised or scared, and he definitely lost sight of his kids at least once lol
https://archiveofourown.org/works/53718373
hiii here is a fic rec i think you would like the author also made another that was really good
I had already read Persephones in hell b4 this one BUT OMG I DID NOT EXPECT TO LOVE THIS AS MUCH AS I DID
Also
This IS MY DICK GRAYSON
Like THIS IS HIM
My son
Also 100% how I think the siblings should sibling
I love the manipulative asshole with a heart of gold Grayson. And him and Jayjay 20/10 I love it
THE FUCKING BLUEJAY STOPPPPP AT THE ALTER IM GOING HOME
(Also I read this at 3 am in a hostel in Prague and idk I need to give it bonus points for ambiance)
Anyway if anyone wants an idea of what I -a complete internet stranger- view Dick graysons character as. It’s this
And to end
I love this section so much
Anyway
100000/10 thank you so much for the rec
I want more but I will not be Icarus I am okay not flying too close to the sun (but if you have more plz do anon)
And to prove a point
Best Damian and Steph moments (I love them)
LOOOK SHES TEACHING HIM OUT TO CHILL IN A BOUNCY CASTLE LOOK AT THEM
Teasing and bickering (also look at how small Damian was and how he’s so big he’s grown so much omg o didn’t even realize until I had to go back to all my old ass screenshots omg)
Pfttttttttttt
The most sibling
Tee heee
He’s such a little shit to her sometimes tho and SHE STILL LOOKED AT THE LITRLE GREMLIN AND WENT - YEAH NO HE NEEDS SOME WORK BUT I GOT IT- IGH I LOVE HER
Life lessons (no I don’t have a less grainy version)
Steph: provides meaningful development and fundamentally impacts Damian’s character
Damian: *slurs*
THE SIBLINGS EVER
thank you for coming to my ted talk
dick grayson & roy harper + thinking of each other unprompted
outsiders (2003) #6 // arsenal (1996) #2 // action comics (1938) #615 // justice league of america (2006) #2 // green arrow (2001) #32 // batman plus arsenal (1996) // titans (2008) #38 // arsenal (1996) #2, 4 // justice league of america (2006) #11 // nightwing (2016) #26
Nvm I’ve somehow clutched a pass I will learn nothing from this stressful lesson
Who let me reread outsiders (2003) instead of studying for my finals. I’m crying all over my laptop
Question?
We talk about how Tim, Jason and Damian’s parents raised them pre Bruce but why don’t we talk about Dick Graysons.
Bc even before all of the court of the owls shit the way that man was raised was wild.
So remember Dick was a member and active participant of a circus as a child. A trapeze act without a net who was expected to pull his weight since he could walk.
That means that despite what everyone thinks John and Mary Grayson absolutely could not afford to gentle parent their child.
At all.
Dick had to know how dangerous his life was forever. He has to be perfect because if he fails him or his parents die. They die with a mistake. Don’t stretch your hand out far enough and someone falls.
And despite the fact that the Romani aspect of his character was born out of a writers need for fetish content. I still find it interesting to explore.
And since I am European! Halys circus truther
It gets more interesting because the anti-Romani sentiment in Europe is vile, obvious and violent. (And I say this as a poc who grew up outside of Europe and moved here for college. Like you’d never imagine the type of shit they say about a group of people with no shame before turning around and commenting about how crazy it is that poc are treated poorly in the rest of the world.) Now imagine your child is working a dangerous gig while being part of a hated minority and you have to go and advertise your whole families location because you are the centerpiece of a show.
Yall think Mary and John Grayson didn’t teach their kid to lie? To fit in with any group humanly possible.
You think Mary and John didn’t teach dick to switch from, mama to mom to Daj. To switch accents and tones and languages since before he could walk on his hands?
You think that this kid who grew up traveling everywhere wouldn’t know how to integrate himself so fully into the society he’s in that he’s invisible as an outsider?
When Dick talks to Bruce in Juvie right before hes taken in as a ward he has an American accent. A Gotham accent and not the ones the other kids has no Dick has a Bristol accent. When he first meets Alfred he has a charming softly British accent, the kind that isn’t immediately noticeable unless you share the accent. The softening of the vowels and heavy central consonants. Think kids who went to British schools abroad and learned English from people with British accents.
Bruce notices this but doesn’t think much of it I mean kids can adapt to their environments startlingly quick maybe the kid just kinda picks up accents.
But then Dick becomes robin and he’s horrifically good at it from the get go.
Which sends alarm bells in Alfred’s head because he raised Bruce at that age. He taught Bruce to defend himself at that age. Bruce wouldn’t be about to do 1/10 of what this kid can do.
No eight year old should be able to throw items with that sort of precision even a child as good at gymnastics as dick. No child should be that comfortable with a knife in his hand.
And of course dick always had an excuse, he grew up around fire breathers and knife throwers of course he’s good.
And Bruce notices when Dick goes out as Robin and begins to help people because for the first few months, he never speaks first.
He’ll save someone and when they thank him, he’ll reply in their exact accent.
The crime alley rougher tones
The high class smarmy Bristol accent
The open vowel Jersey accent
When he meets Superman there’s the barest edges of midwestern twang in his every word.
And it’s just unnerving
He flickers between cultures like their clothes in his wardrobe, accents like they’re a new set of perfectly fit shoes.
He’s just good at it.
And it’s a game to him.
He sees how close he can get to your accent without coming off as suspicious.
By the time he’s being doing the Robin shtick for a while and knows the areas he just immediately switches to the most common accent there even if there aren’t any people around.
His facial expressions and hand gestures change as well.
It adds to the myth of the Batman because the gcpd for a long while believes any Robin reportings to be a myth because one minute someone is reporting a Jersey accent the next genial Californian, or a tv safe reporter tone, one minute the kid is conversing in perfect Russian the next he’s speaking Spanish like he grew up in Mexico.
When he wants to get away with a mistake his voice switches to one indistinguishable from a scared child, with a mild stutter, overgramarization and the scared world slurring children do that makes your heart soft
When he wants people to listen to him his he’s eloquent and enunciating perfectly. He sounds far older than his years.
And everyone thinks they’re hearing the real Dick Grayson speak and it makes their hearts happy because look at how he puts on a show for everyone but trusts me enough to talk without lying.
Without ever realizing that they’re one of the people watching the show.
THIS!!!
Is
My favorite
Thing
“batman loves his nightwing” this and “batsibs love nightwing that”, what about the batsibs’ friends / team loving nightwing ‼️‼️
The thing about Dick Grayson is that he has such a unique quality that just draws people in and holds them captive.
Titans (2016) Issue #26
He has a charisma that's intense. People from all walks of life find themselves just constantly looking at him for friendship, advice, love, guidance, and just something that calls them to him.
It's the impact he has on people that's astounding.
Titans (2016) Issue #27
They love him so much and they respect him so much that his absence is like a huge gaping hole in their chest. People feel lost without him because they've come to rely so heavily on him. Gar and Steel literally only joined because Dick asked.
This is something Roy catches on to and is well-aware of. He practically hounds Dick into creating the Outsiders with him.
Outsiders (2003) Issue #1
But you think Roy is the only one to capitalize on Dick's Nightwing effect? Hell no.
Titans East Special
Dick isn't just a person. He's a home. He's the guiding hand and the ship's steer control. He's special to people because he's everything they want him to be. He's their lover, best friend, brother, and partner. Whatever role they're missing in life they find it him him because he makes himself versatile enough to fill whatever they're looking for.
Dark Crisis Issue #1
We say batsibs' teams but he's the whole Justice community's everything. He fills the connections of both Batman's side and Superman's side.
He IS the most well-connected person in the entire community.
Teen Titans (2003) Issue #23
Look at what Kon says -
"Nightwing and Starfire brought wave two. Which is just about everyone whose ever been a Titan. It's a natural thing when Nightwing shows up. None of us are conscious of it, really--but we all look to him for orders. Robin's lucky."
The sheer respect. That Kon has for Nightwing is indomitable. Oh, but you think that's all?
Do you know what the superhero community says about Nightwing? Kon will tell you what they think -
Teen Titans (2003) Issue #33
The Titans (1999) Issue #39
He calls. They answer.
Epilson
The Titans (1999)
Red Condor
Nightwing (2016) Annual #3
Hutch
Nightwing (2016) Issue #75
Kara
Justice League of America (2006) Issue #49
Supergirl (2005) Issue #3
And sometimes this means more than friendship love but still born out of respect. It's so funny to me how Dick goes around friendzoning people.
Cassie
Even when people don't like what he wants they still do it because they respect him. Because he had an impact on them and they were were moved
Titans (2003) Issue #89
Aquaman, Ollie, John (Green Lantern)
JLA (1997) Issue #121
Kyle Rayner
Even people he's just met are like - this guy's pretty good!
Green Lantern (1990) Issue #81
Coming from a Green Lantern comic!! Not even a Wondergirl, Wonderwoman, Batman, or Nightwing writer. A green lantern!
Speaking of which, when Hal Jordon dies, a list of people are selected to be The Hal Jordon's replacement and guess who it is?
Action Comics (1938) Issue #642
Hal forces his soul back into his body and comes back to life but DC does a "what-if" thing and shows what it would be like if Dick actually became a Green Lantern.
Superman/Batman Issue #60
AND BRUCE'S REACTION!! His most favorite son combined with one of his least favorite people 🤣🤣
Superman/Batman Issue #60
But Bruce's faith in Dick actually elavtes his opinion of Hal.
ALSO!!-
Superman/Batman Issue #61
I JUST KNOW THAT BRUCE WAS WRITHING IN JEALOUSY!!
But anyway, shows to prove that no matter who Dick is and what identity he takes, he will always be the love of the hero community. Because in this world, each member is a combination of the Justice League AND the Titans.
Superman/Batman Issue #60
Yet Dick is still the center of it all.
A literal god
Nightwing (2016) Issue #49
Jon and the hero community
Justice League: Road to Dark Crisis Issue #1
"It would mean a LOT to people if you came and said--" "You're all overreacting." "We need you."
"You're all overreacting." - Clearly, this isn't the first time someone has already come to Dick about being the center of the community.
Not just by the batfam, but for everyone Dick is the most beloved person in the community. That is a fact.
YALL DONT UNDERSTAND
My favorite part of Bruce and Dicks relationship isn’t the unending loyalty and devotion and the self assured destruction of loving a man who hates himself on Dicks part and using an eternally flying man as a your stable ground on Bruce’s part
It’s not the adoration that feels like shackles or the unending trust that feels like raking hot coals over your back
It’s the fact that Dick Grayson will always love Bruce Wayne
And also
Always want to kick the absolute shit out of him
Violently
Like Dick has pent up rage and we see him lash out at people but almost never has he ever attacked any loved ones physically with the exception of Roy Harper after the women who they both loved more than life itself passed.
But with Bruce?
Yeah no
Dick not only hits to hurt
He hits with the aim of getting Bruce down and keeping him there.
It feels like vindication to him
He borderline revels in it
I mean look at the hits he landed during the Gotham War run or Forever Evil/Spyral
And then there’s Bruce
Who knows
Because he is not an idiot
And he knows he fucked up with Dick more than the rest as Robin (nothing can really compare to how he treats Jason as the red hood)
But do you think Batman feels guilt over the fact that Dick HAS this much rage and bitterness over the things Bruce has done
Like Dick in unendingly Kind and forgiving but he’s also and pardon my French, a dick (lowercase) so he absolutely holds resentment over the stuff Bruce did to him even if it’s water under the bridge in his day to day
But he’s still mad
He’s still mad over the loss of Robin
The gauntlet
The death of Jason Todd
The court of the owls
The reveal of Damian Wayne
The fact that Dick had to be Batman
The fact that Bruce died
The fact that Bruce told Dick he never should’ve been Batman
The fact that dick had to continue the cycle of orphans raising orphans
(no he doesn’t count Talia as a parent cuz then he’d have to view her as human and human life has value and in his opinion she has no value and should go find a nice comfy corner to die in like an old cat)
The fact that he was basically pushed into a pseudo father role with all the kids past Jason
Letting him kill the Joker
Bringing the joker back to life
Damian’s death
Steph’s fake death
Spyral
Losing his memories and leaving Dick alone at spyral
Showing Dick a video of him getting shot in the head when he’s mentally a 12 year old and also an amnesiac
And about 6 million other heart wrenching things
So yeah Dick hits to hurt and those times where Bruce has lost control (mind control, clone, fight etc) and Dick has Carte Blanche to cause harm to Bruce
He
Does
Dick Grayson clutching Robin!Tim Drake to his chest: this one is my baby I love him, I will do anything for him.
Tim: cool anyway can you help Bruce with-
Dick now 700 km away, moved, left, skeddadled out of town, call him a road runner, no actually he was never there, if he’s not there he can’t hear you, actually he’s in an underground bunker made of lead so you can’t call him unless you’re Donna Troy (long story): sorry can’t hear you
Tim about do so something reckless with YJ: works everytime
My friend claims it’s bc he’s such a huge feminist, has read all of the feminist literature books (he’s 6’4 btw)
So now bc he’s such a huge feminist he experiences periods so that he can t r u l y understand women (he’s 6’4 btw)
And I think that’s beautiful
Please Donna doesn’t even make the list she’s so far above literally everyone else in his life.
That’s his platonic soulmate
Bitches be like: Dick's favourite sibling is Damian, Dick's favourite sibling is Tim, Dick's favourite sibling is Cas. Meanwhile we all know that his favourite is Donna Troy
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