Me with my female favorite characters: look at you my perfect perfect girl. I cannot say a single thing that may be misinterpreted so I will literally only say that you should be everyone’s favorite you can’t do anything wrong ever and I love you so much and you need more appreciation. Banned from my tags cuz if I have to read angst about you I will sob. And if you go through trauma in canon I will give you a story to healthily process these issues and learn and grow from them my darlings
Me with my male favorite characters: … you have so many issues already…. Give them more. I will find your worst moments and make sure everyone knows about them. Your least favorite trait of yourself is my favorite and I will use this to abuse you psychologically. Not only will I explicitly search for fiction that hurts you I will make it myself. I hate you (my beloved) you will never hear a compliment out of my you stupid stupid man I love you.
Dick Grayson absolutely pulled off the mullet and the suit and we all know it stop lying to yourselves
No one
Not a single being
My brain at any given moment: polycule titans
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Hey do you know a canon summary of Jason’s plotline/ development? Or if you don’t at least what you think his development is? I saw your Damian and Jason being league bros rant and I really liked it. Idk shit about jack that’s canon I just see family vibes in fanfic and my trauma says awooga
Hi hi
Yes yes
Okay so my big issue with the league bros Jay and Dami brotherisms
Is that yes Jaybin was a sweetie (I wouldn’t say he wasn’t reckless or that he was the kindest or nicest Robin bc I think that’s a gross exaggeration but he was a sweetie)
But he just? Wasn’t that? When he came back? He was rightfully angry and violent. He gave into the violent tendencies he had as Robin (which unpopular opinion I think were COMPLETELY JUSTIFIED BTW)
but like? Jay had a bat habit of murdering all his teachers when they were done with him
He killed his goons and low level players in his race to take over the Gotham underbelly and like? Idk he just wasn’t? The current red hood or the past Robin.
Like since I am a dick Grayson stan account I’ll use them to demonstrate.
But Jay and Dicks relationship is awful when he first comes back
-he steals dicks nightwing suit and kills people in it ruining dicks standing and making him a target for more anti-hero ‘vigilantes should be killed’ stuff that was happening at the time
- he killed like 100 people in black gate bc he was like ‘well i wanna kill criminals and here i am surrounded by criminals whatever shall i do’
- then there’s all the WEIRD ASS STUFF he did to Dick and Damian when they were Batman and Robin (stripping them naked and trying to reveal them that way to the world??)
Anyway Jay was a fucking VILLAIN
And then after all this, the reboot happened, they gave Jason a collection of very fucked up and traumatized folks that he couldn’t just murder his way out of
And he like actually had to have dimension and he was moved from being imo one of the most interesting Batman/ batfam villains to being a pretty cool anti hero more in the line with batwoman or like the new Harley Quinn
But he didn’t start out that way
He was a murderer with sociopathic tendencies who remembered what it meant to give a fuck through a lot of shared trauma and experiences and now. His relationship with the bats (I’m talking specifically about the batlings rn like dick, Tim and Damian) is much better
Dick helps him clear his name when he’s accused of murder
Tim and him work together on cases
He’s trying to be there for Damian
And this whole dynamic gave me the ability to watch my precious baby boy beat the shit out of Bruce Wayne during Gotham war (I just love angry Grayson lemme live)
Right
But if you think for a SECOND THAT OG VILLAIN JAY TODD WOULD HAVE BEEN LET AROUND TALIAS BABY??
Not happening
Now a lot of people are gonna be like “oh you’re picking and choosing” or “oh you’re ignoring Talia’s characterization in morrisons and using jays” and yeah I think that Talia’s characterization in dicks Batman run was awful and while I think certain things Jason does in the comic he wouldn’t have done if written by someone else. It 100% is more fitting than the racist nonsense Talia Stan’s had to deal with. 
Anyway I think if you want sweet and fuck brotherisms/siblingisms/ other bat relationships (since you don’t read canon and some of these are lowkey ignored by the fanon i 100% you check out like any fanart/ fanfic of them)
Dick Grayson and any younger Robin is always adorable
Tim and Damian in Gotham war
Jay and Damian in the Robin run
Tim and Duke whenever they’re together
Tim, cass and Steph also have a very fun dynamic (the angst potential here goes crazy tho)
Jay and Dick as red hood and nightwing are very very fun
But also nightwing and Jaybin is fucking adorable (cue dick trying to take Jason Todd from Bruce like YOU FUCK UP IM ADOPTING HIM MYSELF)
Jay and babs (we ignore that one time they tried to make them date we IGNORE IT)
Outside of the Batfam batkid relationships are also so fluffy
Jay and bizzaro have a very cute relationship
Tim and the young justice team are fucking adorable esp him Cassie, Kon and Bart
Supersons can be read as platonic or romantic but they’re fucking adorable and I loved the supersons comic so so so much
Dick and the fab 5 trust me Dick and Donna sibling fluff hurts my teeth.
I personally hated the comic this happened in but if you’re not a big comic fan / you don’t care about pre crisis that Jay and Roy??? Adoptable
Anyway this is mainly based on my opinion I AM mainly a Nightwing reader so some of these things come from my Jay Todd Stan friends (cough cough cough you know who you are cough cough) so I’m sorry if I fucked up any details
The eternal dichotomy of hating how Alfred pennyworth spoke about and to a young Dick Grayson
Vs
Loving how he talks about adult Dick Grayson and all forms of Damian Wayne
I find it funny where in both comics and fanfiction
No one gets right how much Dick Grayson should be eating?
(Warning to everyone from here on bc I get into calories and plz don’t read on if you have issues around weight/ food thank you!)
“Oh Dick lives on cereal”
“Oh Dick eats like a bird”
“Oh he forgets to eat”
“Oh he’s prone to restrictive eating”
GUYS HES a heavily athletic young male who spent his LIFE in sport is around 6’0 and is vaguely dorito shaped
Like his basal metabolic rate even without exercise is HORRIFICALLY HIGH like at the conservative estimate it would be around 3.6k (since hes already accustomed to a heavily active life he’d burn more even laying down than say a sedentary person)
And EVEN if you didn’t count running around the city all night/ his day life/ the fact he’s usually on his feat even as a civilian.
If you just took in the calisthenics required to THROW yourself off of a roof
Baby that’s 700calories an hour
So again LOW END 2.4K + 3.6k = brother is packing away 6k calories
Without all the running, working out, training, gymnastics
And hes running/jumping across a city so i would also put in the average 2.6k calories the average person burns running a marathon?
Are you seeing what I’m putting down?
Bro is EATING like a bodybuilding
And PACKING on carbs on carbs on carbs for energy
Like at the LOW end Dickie boy is eating 7k calories for maintenance.
Which is also why I am a huge fan of the cereal thing in moderation. Bc yeah guess what a quick release cheap carb that can be consumed quickly makes sense
But I also believe Dick is eating fuck you amounts of high calorie low volume foods like 1000 calorie smoothie 2-3 times a day
Like Dicks grocery bill must be OFFENSIVE
Like bro must be putting sticks off butter in his coffee instead of milk bc idek how he wouldn’t be struggling
Like he’s losing 3-6% of his body weight in movement alone
AND LETS NOT EVEN TALK ABOUT THE LIKE 6 LITERS OF WATER
Donna Troy cradling Dick Graysons face between her hands; I would die for you
Dick: I would die for you
Donna: I know hon, but it doesn’t mean the same thing coming from you
Dick, vaguely offended: hey!
Donna: Dickie baby, you’d die for a torn up piece or paper or something much less valuable like Bruce Wayne.
Donna: let’s face it, you dying for something/someone isn’t exactly a compliment, it means they’re breathing (optional)
Dick: …… I mean you’re not…. Wrong but i really don’t want to admit that
Donna now patting both sides of his face: dw I know you love me, even if you have a martyr complex
Things I think about late at night
-discowing was Dicks dads costume
-the mullet everyone cracks jokes about (same) was given to him my mirage
- the OG Robin costume was based on his parents and his circus costumes and now it’s black, gray and orange
- Jason Todd’s biggest fear is not living up to Dick Grayson (in Bruce’s eyes)
- Damian Wayne’s biggest fear is disappointing Dick Grayson
- DC tried to make Dick and Donna a thing (no..just no)
-Dick and Damian both have a compulsive need to pick up strays (is this Bruce’s fault or did they bond over this?)
- Tim Drake is so cool in the comics and I wasted so many years hating him cuz fanon Tim is a lil bitch boy
-Jason Todd is such a loser in canon but it works so well on him god damn
-I’m actually rlly annoyed that Steph is never a contender for nightwing I think she’d do rlly well tbh
- Steph’s backstory is way sadder than Tim’s we should absolutely talk about it more
-Lian Harper :(
-Tim is so funny when he’s just some dude who ADHD hyperfixationed his way into a “I got adopted by my favorite band” y/n self insert fic except the band was a collection of deeply unstable people who fight crime and also happens to have an IQ of 180
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- the fact that Bruce and Dick/Damian/Tim have a deeply dysfunctional relationship and I need them in family therapy
- Cass isn’t actually Bruce’s favorite she’s just the one that should be.
- the fact that Jason Todd canonically likes Dick Grayson and doesn’t like Nightwing
- the fact that Donna and Stephanie Brown aren’t friends and have never had a run together in canon (they should be- give me mentor-mentee vibes fr ong)
- Damian wants to become a doctor like his grandfathers and his mom <3
-the fact that Dick missed a solid portion of Damian’s development if you consider both spryal and the Ric arc to have happened in the same timeline
- Dick stole Bruce,babs and Damian’s super
- Garth, Dick and Donna are a sliding scale of blue to black costumes (they come in a set!!!)
- the fact I don’t have enough Dick and Garth fanon and canon content
- Jason/ Red hood needs an iconic establishing story like Nightwing year 1. I feel like Dixons Grayson is so easy to reference as like the “standard Grayson” before you add all the other (imo better) stuff from other future runs and tbh I don’t think Jason has any (if you disagree gimmie some recs)
- the fab 5 are called that in canon
- Garth didn’t have any friends pre joining the OG titans
- nightwing is on every Pride cover every damn year and he hasn’t kissed Roy or Wally yet? Sir? Plz
- Wally lost his wife and children multiple times in canon
- young Roy was bitter and wanted to compete with Robin!Dick but adult Roy wants to punch Bruce in the face bc he realizes bby Grayson was so abnormal
https://archiveofourown.org/works/23094079
idk if you like reverse robins but…red hood steph
PFFFFTTTTTTT
BRO I feel like so many times people de age my son and make him a saint or the devil.
No HE IS JUST CHAOS
Bro grew up weird and thinks the way he grew up was normal ofc he’s annoyed your worried for him
There are like 2 things bby Grayson doesn’t like
- insults to his parents
- insults to his showmanship/ skill
If you think a BRUISE is gonna knock him down obviously you’re insulting both and are obviously cringe fail losers lmao
Also I love how we all agree that in the deaged verse Damian is horrifically and cartoonishly protective of Dick Grayson
THANK YOU FOR THE FIC REC
Sorry to bother you, but I’m trying to get into comics and I was wondering if you had any comic recs? Your takes on the characters seem really interesting so I kinda wanted to know you’re favorite runs/ what you find interesting or important.
Thank you for your time, and have a nice day!
Hi dear! My advice is
Fuck everyone. If something sounds cool you can start there hell the first comic I finished was Grayson? Find your lil guy/girl and go for it!
If you wanna be more linear or if you wanna start reading about a character that you don’t know that much about then genuinely the best piece of advice I’d give you is literally go “Nightwing/arsenal/flash/batgirl/stephanie brown/cassandra Cain/literally pick a hero or civilian name it doesn’t even matter reading order Reddit” that’s literally how i got started
If you want my opinion, I’d avoid the new 52 for one of your first series. Despite all the shit I give the new 52 a lot of it is fun. But the best way I can put it! Is that a lot of the characters only exist in the new 52
Like dick and Jason are entirely different motherfuckers in the new 52. Dick specifically?? Wearing red?? Atrocious
My personally favorite runs right now are a mix of fun new stuff and older classics (and mostly Dick Grayson sue me if you have seen my lil account you know by now I am a dick Grayson Stan first human second call me Tim Drake)
This starts in a certain order and slowly devolves I’m sorry I tried! But… not that hard
-Batman year 1
- Batman and Robin year 1 (2024) - my son is adorable here
-batman the long Halloween
- absolute Batman (honestly all of the absolute verse the Wally stuff is looking really promising so far tho I won’t co-sign it yet)
- Robin year 1
-worlds finest! (Thank you Dan mora we all say in unison)
- Nightwing year 1
- teen titans (yes including Judas contract)
- new teen titans
- Nightwing 1996 (ik Dixon is a lil bitch but I like this run)
-outsiders (2003) - DickRoy divorce arc my beloved
- now technically you need to read rebirth but I fucking hated the himbofication of my son so read at your own risk
- Batman and Robin 2009 (villain Jay Jay my son)
-NIGHTWING ALL IN (the moment they de-lobotomized him I lost my marbles)
- supersons (cute, light hearted, adorable, if Damian doesn’t become a favorite of yours after this I’ll write you an apology note)
- Batman: under the red hood
- Grayson (this comic fucking sucks but I’m a sucker for this genre of super spy also the ART STYLE)
-Batman hush (also the new hush bc I like Jason’s suffering)
YOU DONT NEED TO READ ALL OF THIS!!!! If you want a lazy way to get all the background info! Fandom wikis exist! Literally pick and drop whatever you want. If anyone judges you! They suck!
Also some of these aren’t good!! (Grayson) the fandom doesn’t like em but I LIKE EM! They’re fun! My
My takes on characters changes depending on like the era I’m reading and even the comic I’m reading (for example Jason is currently my son my lil baby boy and a month ago I wanted them to blow him up again) but I might make a post detailing like my actual canon only opinion of certain characters (mainly titans and core batfamily)
Anyway HAVE FUN AND HAPPY READING :D
I know he is legit suicidal at that point and the entire city of Bludhaven is being erased from the map but this is so cool. So badass.
This is one of those panel I would die to see animated. Are you kidding ?
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