So, I Got An Idea In My Head A While Ago Involving Alastor Not Being A Sinner. Or, At Least Not A Sinner

... I mean their not wrong.

Dialga's too busy picking a fight with Palkia to let time run properly un the Pokemon Universe.

and Giratina trying to kidnap Dialga that one time 

Arceus needs to sort out his kids XD

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Ok, this is more theory craft that has been on my mind for a bit for random reasons.

If you have no interest in Hazbin Hotel, I suggest you leave this be; if you do, join me as I ask: could Alastor's dealmaker be a SIN or a hellborn?

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So, lets get down to business, most people will agree that Alastor likely came to the hotel because of his deal either to:

Stop the hotel from succeeding

Provide suport for the hotel

Keep Charlie happy

Suport Charlie

Keep Charlie safe and alive

Dissuade Charlie of her dreams

Dissuade sinners from joining the hotel

Or some combination of all of the above

As of now, we assume Alastor's deal has something to do with his seven-year disappearance from Pride. Considering Vox and his apparent obsession with Alastor and keeping an eye on him, we are assuming Alastor must not have been in Pride for the seven years he was missing.

That and with the show's and hotel's straightforward plots relating to heaven and redemption, the theory community of Hazbin points to Alastor's deal maker having to be someone with clear connections to Heaven because the only way Alastor would have been able to escape Vox's eye would be for him to have been in heaven for those seven years, and as such the leading contenders for his deal maker would have been Sera or Lilith since they are the most prominent figures that could have any of the deal reasonings apply to them.

However, there is another place i believe Alastor could have been that escapes Vox's eyes. And that, is the lower rings of Hell.

If you watch Hell of a Boss, you will notice that the lower rings do not use Voxtech items, and we do not know for now if Vox can connect to items that do not either have software he has produced or hardware he has made. So, that would mean the lower rings of hell could be a potential blind spot for Vox and a potential place Alastor could have been for his seven year absence.

"but wait," you say, "Sinners can't go into the lower rings of Hell!"

Very true! But, has it ever been explained WHY they can't go to the lower rings?

As far as I have been able to find, no. But, most theories posit that some magic prevents them from going down. But, as we have been able to see in the show, all magic seems to has some counterbalance, for example while a deal makes a soul a slave to a master it can not take up all the slave's time and the mastor can not control what the thrall does outside that time or what the thrall thinks or says unless it is part of the deal.

As such, what if there was magic that could give a sinner permision to leave PRIDE.

It would have to be someone with stronger power then that of any sinner or overlord, and the only ones higher on hell's higherarchy then sinners that could achieve this goal are the Ars Goetia, or The Seven Deadly Sins. This is considering Lilith is in heaven, Charlie never met Alastor till he showed up, and Lucifer didn't even leave his castel for ages even before the seven year time Lilith was missing till his call with Charlie.

While a Goetia forming a deal with a Sinner is just as possible, considering their views of anyone lower on the hierarchy than them, and Alastor's deal likely has something to do with giving him power, I don't think a Goetia would have likely sullied themselves with a sinner much less bring them to a lower ring.

So, it likely would had to have been a SIN.

But why?

Well, part of hell's power comes from sinners and their power flowing through hell, if I had to guess, so keeping sinners in hell would be a high priority, and a place like a hotel that could potentially remove that power source would be a massive problem for the Sins. So, having someone innocuously keep an eye on the hotel and keep it for succeeding would be necessary. And who better than a sinner and one that could scare off prospective sinners like an overlord?

On another side of the scale, most people believe that the Sins are Charlie's Aunts and Uncles, so a lot of them could potentially want to support Charlie's dream or keep her safe, even if they can't do it directly (either because of Lucifer or another reason). So, who better to do it than one of the few high-level sinners with a moral code? It would probably just take a bit of convincing; nothing a few years of stealing them away to a lower ring couldn't fix.

As for Sin, I can't say; I suspect not Mammon because he seems too lost in his sin to care about the hotel, but I can't put anything on his care for the family. Ozzie does not seem the type to sabotage, so if it were him, I would suspect more care than anything. Bee's personality makes me think care would be more likely than wanting to sabotage the hotel. I've heard Satan is a more traditionalist when it comes to the sins to sabotage would be possible. Still, I can't say anything about his family care (though if we use Vivzi's other works as a guide, I suspect Satan would not be a supporter but possibly a protector of Charlie herself). Leviathan and Belphagore are a complete mystery.

There is one last option for who the deal maker could be that I have to mention, and that is the Von Eldrich family (I can't identify which member specifically). We know they have an antagonistic relationship with Charlie, and at least the children could want Charlie's idea to fail. And they have to be a reasonably strong family to have portraits with the royal family if we use previous art as an indicator. Plus, they will likely be powerful enough to pull off the "allowing a sinner into a lower ring" potential. Also, the color palette when we see Alastor covered in strings relating to the von Eldrich family color palette does line up surprisingly well, and their looks could relate to their powers being something like the Lovecraftian horror we see Alastor using.

For now, this is just a theory. And I hope it inspires some writing and drawing. If it does, please link me.

I'm in a mood to post some of my Redbubble works. Hope you all enjoy.

Programing the worlds (on Wattpad) https://my.w.tt/YRNI12r0FW He couldn't help but feel for the longest time like something wasn't right. Like the person who was in charge of creating new worlds wasn't the right person. He couldn't help but feel like he was supposing to protect someone not there for some reason, as well as help them find something that was lost. What though? He wished he knew, He wished he c…

Ok, so, this is a set of fan fic ideas I want to put out into the world for anyone who wants to write it. I have 1 I am writing a little about but it is mostly for personal, haha funny idea, reasons.

The first is one I have seen happen only once I think. Basically Cucurucho being made Phil's ward/child and Phil having to juggle taking care of three kids. With Cheyenne and Cucurucho getting into arguments and Phil having to deal with a bear with basically creative mode.

Second. Cucurucho and Cheyenne (I probably spelled that wrong... But I am not bothered enough to check now.) are the same people. Cheyenne is trying to keep it a secret from everyone, only for Phil to figure it out instantly and instead joke with Cheyenne about it as well as to others in a nonobvious way, especially so with other islanders who are out of the loop while also coming up with plausible excuses for Cheyenne when the baby has to go off and be Cucurucho. This leads to Cucurucho showing favoritism to Phil, which everyone is confused about, while also being confused about why the federation workers are listening to Phil or hanging out with him.

Three, Cheyenne and Cucurucho are not the same person but something happened to Cheyenne and Phil in a broken mental state started seeing Cucurucho as his son. Leading Cucurucho to having to play along or something very bad will happen, either to the bear or the island, and as time goes on Cucurucho starts caring for Phil as much as the man cares about the bear.

Four, this one is kind of out of place with the rest because it completely rewrites the QSMP (and it was completely my idea). The start of the premise (and the entire background of the idea) is Philza completely secluded himself in his hard-core world after Techno and Wilbur's deaths (how is up to interpretation.) and basically disappears for so long that he became a legend alongside Technoblade.

Sometime during Phil's seclusion, a research organization dedicated to studying Mods and updates was formed under the name of "the Federation." The group had initially intended to have robots collect and test any dangerous mobs. Some time later while watching their prototype one day in the field in action, they realized, "Oh sh** these things can develop sentience!" this was after the group had developed a whole division of these robots. Instead of scraping the project, though, the group took a different approach and decided to create a subdivision of the federation to run one of their research servers, Quesadilla Island, directly and to give a permanent, safe, home for the atomita to become players. Over time, Cucurucho, the initial prototype, and their team dedicated themselves to collecting modded materials and mobs for other research facilities since their island did not yet have a research facility. Then one day Cucurucho cashed an avian wing smuggling operation and destroyed the entire organization, saving 3 young avians and a young mimic disguised as an avian in the process. Since it was to dangerous to leave these young avians to fend for themselves Cucurucho took it upon themselves (with the help of their team) to raise the group, and once the 4 were old enough to be able to make their way in the Hub they set them off with Federation backing to allow them to achieve whatever goal they had in mind.

A few years later all 4 made their way back to the federation and applied to be scientists for the organization, while desiring to work on the island they had called home for so long and to see the one who had raised them again. This lead to a whole research division being established on Quesadila island with other scientists joining the initial 4 as permanent research residents on the island. With some of the automata that were in Cucurucho's division finding their calling and personalities with all the new residents. While Cucurucho continued on with his work as a search and retrieval worker with his remaining team while also checking if any damage or alterations the residents made to the island had caused any permanent damage. During one such check where a researcher -cough cough Tubbo cough cough- destroyed part of the ancient wall on the island and woke a dragon up who had soon flown away. During Cucurucho's check of the area he found 12 dragon eggs who soon after hatched into dragonlings that Cucurucho basically decided they had to take care of, though over time many of the dragonlings worked their way into the hearts of the island residents and made those residents their parents, all except 2, Cheyenne and Talullah, both of whom and been born with guardian angles who were the souls of Phil's long past friends (the two can see and hear their own and each others angles, but no one else really can).

Cucurucho had to keep doing his job though and one day with Cheyenne and Talullah following along with his team as they went off server to collect mobs and materials for the residents to study one of the updates the group accidentally found themselves on Phil's hardcore world with a Philza who was ready to kill the intruders that were trying to steal his sniffers. However, the team manages to sedate Philza after a long battle that injured both sides. Cheyenne and Talullah's guardian spirits recognised their friend and father and unintentionally lead to Cheyenne and Talullah refusing to leave without the man, especially with how injured the man was. And Cucurucho, ever the bleeding heart for those he loves brings the man with them while trying to figure out how he was going to try and get the man to stay once he was fully healed to keep the two dragonlings happy.

For me, my intention in the future of my little idea is that over time while recovering Philza meets the other residents and dragonlings and gets to know them, before an event happens that basically locks down the subnet of servers the Federation was using locking all residents in the subnet unable to contact the outside world or get out into it, leading the group into a situation where they have to set up for survival and figure out what happened, with Talullah and Cheyenne endearing themselves to Phil while their guardian spirits whisper for the man to stay as Phil starts to get to know Cucurucho even better (like in a co-platonic-parent way).

And, that's it. Those are my ideas.

If anyone uses them or finds fics similar to them, maybe message me them? I would love to read them! Or, if you need help bordering out any of these ideas I am happy to help out and talk through some possibilities.

Have a nice day!

I didn't know there was a picture list of the frizze's dresses.

*curious to read*

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