What do you think of Timon & Pumbaa's love interests in the show?
Oof. I’ve got complex feelings about this particular topic.
Sooooo. Let’s just rip-off the band-aid:
I think they kinda suck. Especially Timon’s love interests. The only love interest that was kind of okay between the two of them was Sharla, the pink warthog from Home is Where the Hog Is. Mainly because she was hilarious and actually had a fun personality, and some cute chemistry with Pumbaa (and even with Timon too! I loved the part where Sharla started hamming them both up as heroes and Timon immediately changed his tune about her. CUTEEEE.)
But… and this is a BIG but… her character design is so effing ugly. Like, did she have to be pink?! With lipstick?!!! And a tiara?? Could she not have just been a cute lady warthog that fit in with the natural aesthetic of the other animals!?! Aghhh.
Rosebud, the other female warthog from the episode Madagascar About You, was no better. Again… ugly ass character design. Bright pink and kinda gross looking. (I’M SORRY AHHHHHH.)
But Timon’s love interests were worse. He had two major ones, Princess Tatiana from the episode Once Upon a Timon, and an unnamed female meerkat from the Lights! Camera! Traction! episode.
Now, Once Upon a Timon is one of my all-time favorite episodes. Timon and Pumbaa are BEAUTIFULLY characterized in that episode, and the animation is to die for. Plus, I kinda liked the overall storyline of Timon being exiled for daring to shirk his responsibilities for ONE MOMENT (something Fred got away with all the time, I might add!!!!) for the purpose of pursuing a love interest. This gave actual backstory and substance to Timon’s canonical distrust of romantic love and vulnerability. But I digress. We are here to talk about the love interests!!
Anyways—TATIANA. She is cuter than Pumbaa’s love interests, but I can’t stand the long hair and tiara thing. It’s so overly gendered. AGHHHH. But yeah, she’s not a bad character, per se. She’s more… boring? I guess? She doesn’t feel well developed at all, and she only has like, what? One line shared between her and Timon? They barely even talk!
Now, in my opinion, a love interest for Timon (one that would actually HOLD his attention and not bore him or scare him away,) would be one that could match him wit-for-wit, challenging him intellectually, and one that could banter with him and poke holes in his ego in a way that feels playful, rather than mean-spirited. He needs someone that won’t let him steamroll them, someone that exhilarates him by NOT letting him be the dominant one in the conversation, and someone that, frankly, terrifies him. She (or he) would need to not coddle him or even comfort him—he needs someone that makes him face himself, someone that won’t put up with his deflections and bravado—so that he can actually grow and not stagnate.
Tatiana does… none of that. She just serves as a prize that he wins at the end of the episode for being heroic. YAWN. And, uh, also… he would be SOOO bored of her within two weeks. 🤣☠️
Now, his other love interest, the one from Lights! Camera! Traction!, is probably the worst out of all of them. Their dynamic is so shallow and weird and heteronormative. That episode reeks of compulsory heterosexuality.
Now, Timon trying to pretend he’s something that he’s not to impress a love interest feels VERY on-brand to me. In my mind, Timon is not only insecure, but has a deep-rooted sense of shame and even self-loathing, to the point where he believes he is fundamentally broken and unlovable as he is. (He would NEVER admit this out loud, of course.) Sooo, it would make perfect sense for him to avoid sincerity at all costs when he’s feeling vulnerable.
However, the part that feels off to me in that episode is the way that Timon just PUSHES himself onto the female meerkat. Like, trying to force her to kiss him while her body language screams “no!” That is ICKY. That is not in-character in the SLIGHTEST for Timon. He’s cocky and full of bluster, yes, but he is not some womanizing Casanova, nor is he a predator. No, he is awkward and neurotic, and completely swag-less. 🤣
NOW.
What makes my feelings about this so complex?!
I grew up with this show, and I used to absolutely RELISH when the female meerkats and female warthogs would show up. Baby Camy knew she was gay before grown up Camy even knew. ☠️☠️☠️
The pretty girls would make my heart flutter. 😭😮💨
So yeaaaah, I can critique these episodes all day, but I still enjoy them for nostalgia’s sake.
Let’s be so for real though—THESE TWO are the real love interests. Whether you ship them romantically or not, they are soulmates.
PERSONAL HEADCANON THAT NO ONE ASKED FOR TIME!!!!
I personally think that they effectively live as partners all the way through TLK 2, getting all of their companionship needs met through each other, but that they have just never named their relationship or acknowledged its depth verbally.
Timon is deeply emotionally constipated, and Pumbaa, bless his heart, doesn’t push. He lets Timon stay in his comfort zone, which isn’t necessarily a bad thing. But I also think they both avoid acknowledging the full depth of their bond because doing so would make it real—and terrifying. Admitting how vulnerable they are with each other would mean confronting the possibility of loss. And for them, that kind of honesty feels dangerous, because loving each other openly would make the risk of losing one another unbearable.
Anywho—their greatest love story is with each other. 🥹❤️
Bonus picture: these female meerkats were my bisexual awakening. 🤣
BRO JUST WANTED TO GO TO DINOSAUR LAND WTF.
i love Clifford he's so me !!!!
anyways... ANOTHER rant but this time about Clifford XPP also probably spoilers
yeah this movie apparently didn't get the greatest reviews, from what i've seen, but some of the issues they point out make the movie great imo. I've seen one talk about the absurdity of the movie, which, again, makes the movie funny and appealing (at least to me!!). While at first I was like, "Wait, this is kind of just how ten-year-olds act - pretty chaotic/crazy - why is everyone PISSED at this guy.." I kinda realize that yeah I do feel like some kids might be treated like how Clifford was, unfortunately. Like, for example, a scene where Clifford was watching something inappropriate (n*dity [idk if I have to censor bc of Tumblr but i'll see?]), and Martin - his guardian at the time - didn't gaf. I feel like a lot of kids don't have parents/guardians that watch over what they do on the internet as much as they should. Martin didn't really care about him a lot of the movie/was mean to him (which did make a lot of scenes funny). In addition to all of that- Clifford has a crush on an adult, Martin's girlfriend, which again added another reason why Martin kinda hated him, I suppose (petty ahh Martin). In a deleted scene, Sarah (Martin's gf) reacts to Clifford admitting he likes her very well, and overall is just a good person to Clifford, which I love. She's also a daycare worker, which might be a good contributing factor to that. Clifford having a crush on an adult is also a good representation of real kids, since real kids do get crushes on adults, whether that be a celebrity or a teacher.
I like kind of the balance of underlying truth to this movie that might have not been intended (again imo), and just comedy.
okay SA mention here soo yeah warning!! but if you don't want to read that my conclusion is that this movie is awesome sauce, Clifford his me, AND I LOVE THIS MOVIE no matter if I'm overreacting or whatever. also note that Martin Short was bordering 40 while filming this (while Clifford was TEN.) might edit all of this a bit too
okay moving on a bit;
there's a scene kiiiiinnndaaa near the end where Clifford rants about a party that had taken place at Martin's house (which Clifford started. Silly little guy). He says that someone tried to touch him in his "special no-no place," as he described, and said he was also tied up by some bikers. Martin, in response to hearing this, barricades the door and Clifford has to call Sarah to come and get him. Before Clifford calls Sarah, and after Martin leaves,, Clifford is able to slip out from the ropes by himself and implies he was putting on an act (get this kid into acting). At least I'm pretty sure he implied it?? I really don't want to assume anything but I cant find ANYTHING about it online I have dug for ages. However, even if he was putting on an act, Martin still BARRICADED THE DOOR SO CLIFFORD WAS STUCK IN THE ROOM? crazy asf if you ask me, even if you are angry (at a TEN YEAR OLD like calm down buddy idgaf if he's trying to steal your gf GET AHOLD OF YOURSELF 💔💔)
Sarah also also went through something kiiiinda related? But it was with her boss. They were in a car, and he was just forcefully kissing her and stuff, but she managed to get him off of her and SNATCHED HIS WIG HELLO.. definitely my second favorite character in the movie!!!!!
also there was a joke I think about either some drag queens/trans women (from what I can tell) and Sarah didn't BAT AN EYE (in a good way since Martin stared) we stan an ally!!!!!!!!
but yeah could the directors not think of anything else to stuff this movie with... I'll have to do some more research if I can even find anything because again I couldnt even find ANYONE talking about Sarah and Clifford's experience.
Thing for a yeah
Idk where the og base is from sowwy
Timon: What do ya normally do when I'm gone?
Pumbaa: Wait for you to get back. 🥺
Wade: You deserve someone better, Petey! *struggles between big ass web trap Peter made*
Peter: You can't get rid of me Wade it's too late.
fuck it lester the doorman did it
FAME BECOMES ME MENTION!?!?!?!?!??!
Tried my hand at another Lion King 1 1/2 screencap redraw. Tried to make Timon more closely resemble his TLK 1994 model. The colors were fun to figure out, because there isn’t actually any examples of Timon in the Pridelands at the ass-crack of dawn in the original TLK. 😂
I’ve been studying that original Lion King style really hard, so I hope that comes out here. 😬 The expression was interesting to tackle because Timon’s eyes don’t really do those micro-expressions in the first movie.
Enjoy!
i just wanted to put this here because uhhhhh I can and he's hot
might do another random photodump soon(if this isn't already one) bc I'm in desperate need for storage </3
cutie patootie
Poorly drawn Cherubi line
An older, future Wade comes back in time and the first thing he does is kiss Logan