Guys I Think It Would Be Fun If You Told Me Something That You Ship From Literally Any Fandom And Then

We joke about Mike’s monologue killing Max but it actually makes perfect sense to start with “forced conformity is killing the kids” then have a forced heterosexual love confession kill Max only for her to be saved by a completely unprompted expression of gay love from El

Guys I cracked the code. Mike Wheeler is demiromantic. He’s only ever had a crush on Will which is why it took him so long to figure out that he was in love with him, but he always knew that his relationship with Will was special.

Yes, yes this is me projecting onto Mike even more than I already was.

U guys r making my mind explode FJJFJF guess I’m delusional again lmao

Mike knowing what Will meant in the van scene is not a POSITIVE thing actually is the OPPOSITE. It means that the Byler storyline is over and that Mike is homophobic towards Will and that he actually meant what he said to El in the monologue

No it doesn’t? Lmfao what? The entire reason Mike even gave that monologue is because Will told him to. He literally had to be told to tell El he loved her by Will. That is literally canon 😂🤨 idk how you melvins are happy with this. Will is canonly the only thing holding that ship together LMFAOOO

Mike gives an ILY confession to El because of Will’s coded love confession. Mike’s monologue is literally a direct response to Will’s monologue????? Mike surely knows Will lied about the painting or at the very least he suspects it, or suspects will is talking about himself, but there are many reasons Mike might not confront him about this lol, because what if he’s wrong? Then he would expose himself.

like seriously? Look at the way he LOOKS at Will here. Really bro? He looks: scared, shocked, unsure, nervous, hopeful, happy? The way his eyes subtly shift back and forth like he is SEARCHING for an answer. He at the very least suspects, but it would make sense if he is doubting himself, especially considering it is Will that literally tells Mike to say what he said to el…. Mike would not have given that monologue otherwise. Mike is confessing his love to El, a DIRECT RESPONSE to Will’s confession where he pretends to BE el…. This is not very subtle subtext lol.

Will pretends to be El in his love confession. Will confesses he loves Mike as El. Mike then confesses he loves El back, where Will is the one actually pretending to be El the entire time. Come on now

🤨🤨🤨

Is he an angsty bisexual teenage boy with a shitload of trauma that could kill me in a heartbeat if he wanted to? Yes.

But is he my babygirl?

Also yes.

maturing is the “wait, she didn’t even say let them eat cake?” -> “omg marie antoinette did nothing wrong sofia coppola is a genius” -> “maybe marie antoinette is not a supervillain but is not an angel either” pipeline

Dude I-

If this isn’t confirmation enough then I don’t know what is 💀

We as a community need to talk more about the fact that Els first word to Mike was "no" and Wills first word to Mike was "yes"

no but hear me out:

i want robin to kiss a girl in season 5 so badly and no matter who it is, in the end of the day i will take it because she needs a gf already BUT

it has to be nancy. like it has to be. it's not that i dislike vickie or anything but i just (i better not get canceled for that one) feel like her character was kind of poorly written? no hate to the actress at all, but to me it just felt like they copy-pasted robin's entire personality and turned it into a new character?? i don't know maybe that's just me? robin deserves a complex character by her side (nancy god damn wheeler) and i am dying on that hill. nancy is and has always been such a complex character and giving her a girlfriend would only EMPHASIZE this complexity. from s1 one until now nancy has been captured in this love triangle and it is pretty clear that she never felt fully understood in neither of those relationships. like she always had to prove herself you know what i mean? with both steve and jonathan. now guess what? she never had to prove herself around robin. ROBIN EVEN PUT HER IN CHARGE HELLO??

and robin...well the way she rambled around nancy?? the way she looked down when she saw the way nancy was looking at steve?? the way she called for nancy when she went after steve?? the way they held hands??? they both deserve each other so much. i could literally talk about this for HOURS oh my god. the ronance hyperfixation is going strong!

hello anon i understand u so strongly, and im sorry this took me so long to get to! i promise it wasn't intentional!

i will forever be on the train that even if vickie was done better than she was, she will always be a character introduced to give the lesbian character a love interest, she was doomed to this position from the start because she had no other real purpose! rockie will always feel inorganic because vickie is nothing beyond a love interest for robin.

this is. such a common problem, ESPECIALLY in wlw ships, and that's why i love ronance. nancy wheeler is immune to this phenomenon because she and robin were both created independently and with different purposes, and their stories come together so well its actually insane

nancy wheeler is one of those characters that is so hard to understand if you don't look at her through a queer lens, or at the very least an anti-misogynist one. i think the best thing the duffers could do for her is finish the arc she started in season 1, which is focused on self-realization and discovery.

the entire show she has been told who she is, what she should do, who she likes, who she loves, by everyone! it is never nancy who says these things, it is other characters telling her, even barb, even robin. how insane would it be if she came to the conclusion on her own that she liked women? or at the very least had looked at her own feelings not through the lens of someone who didn't understand her or the situation they were talking about.

robin falls into these same patterns, but the more she gets to know nancy, the more she really understands her, the more she backs off on those kinds of comments and the more she uplifts nancy's voice. there is SO MUCH POTENTIAL in them and the fact that it will more likely than not be ignored is so. agonizing. please duffer brothers see the vision

Hannigram:

it's ridiculous and a little offensive honestly to say that byler can't happen in season 5 because it's "too late" and "there's not enough time" when the sad reality is that a lot of shows who introduced queer characters/relationships had to wait until the last humanly possible minute to introduce them out of fear of general audience dropping the show midway and the show getting cancelled if they did the same thing earlier on. i can think of at least three big shows that did it right off the top of my head and i'm sure i'll find more if i were to look for it. so stop saying shit like that and giving me reasons to be in your walls