I wish the women jumping on the 4B bandwagon would understand these points:
https://www.tumblr.com/femtoscooter/766688743202684928?source=share
https://youtu.be/b3KswFqFwt8?si=bidXJHUHJ32v5YcH
Anon, you are the one with a fundamental misunderstanding of 4B.
The post and video you sent me both cover the same topics, so I'll simply address them as one.
First, the author of that post is genderkoolaid. This is the same individual who posted a factually incorrect, misrepresentation of abuse statistics, in opposition to women's separatism. After my thorough explanation of how and why they were wrong, they chose to block me rather than admit to their misrepresentation.
All of this is to say, I am entirely unsurprised at their misrepresentation of another female separatist movement.
Sex strikes and 4B
Both posters erroneously compare the 4B movement to a sex strike. This is a fundamental misunderstanding of the movement. A sex strike is a transient protest meant to induce political or social change. For example, women may organize a sex strike to be concluded only once particular abortion protections are passed. (Like all protests, historical sex strikes have had mixed success.)
The 4B movement is not transient. Women who commit to 4B do not stop and later return to men. It is also not designed to directly induce a specific political or social change. The 4B movement was fundamentally a reaction to the intensely patriarchal culture in South Korea. The women who joined this movement did so because they believed that a life without men would be better than a life with men. They are not "withholding sex" until South Korean men stop being misogynistic; they have taken stock of their reality and decided that completely separating themselves from men is the only feasible reaction to their circumstances.
Yes, this focus on women's lives and circumstances, and the mass social rejection of the status quo, is likely intended to bring about social change (i.e., make men stop acting as they do), but this is a byproduct of the movement, not the origin.
All of this is to say: the 4B movement is not a means to an end, it is both the means and the ends.
But American women aren't doing it this way
Some are, some aren't. I'm entirely unsurprised that in a culture steeped in postmodernist theory, some women are attempting to distort the meaning of the movement. While I do not read Korean, I imagine this is frustrating to the woman who created and committed to 4B.
The continuation of this postmodernist pattern is unfortunate, and I truly wish the women who meant "sex strike" said so, rather than co-opting another movement. That being said, the mainstreamed discussion of female separatism is still positive as it brings women's attention to the possibility of alternate choices. (And having men's typical, misogynistic, violent reactions on display to the mere suggestion of such an action have been, as always, enlightening.)
Comparison with political lesbianism
Again, this is a misunderstanding of both the 4B movement and political lesbianism.
Political lesbianism is a practice where heterosexual or bisexual women falsely claim to be homosexual.
This is not the same as bisexual women practicing female separatism (i.e., only forming relationships or having sex with other women) while still indicating they are bisexual. It is also not the same thing as heterosexual women choosing to forgo all romantic and sexual relationships (e.g., major parts of the 4B movement).
The issue with political lesbianism is the homophobia inherent in intentionally claiming you are homosexual when you are not and the associated sentiments (e.g., claiming you can "choose" your sexuality).
The "male" loneliness crisis
The video repeats the misinformation concerning the "male" loneliness crisis/suggests men are uniquely affected by social isolation. Again, this is patently false. There is a general loneliness epidemic – one that affects women and men equally – not a male-specific crisis.
General rejection of female separatism
The rest of their commentary is the standard rejections of female separatism (sprinkled with pseudo-liberal buzzwords).
I'm not going to re-hash every defense and benefit of separatism here, but here are a few highlights:
The same post from above using data to show how female separatism would result in an unprecedented reduction in violence against women
Someone else's post about the difference in segregation and separation
Someone else's post about the framing of separatism as an option
My post about how many men are misogynistic
My post about the fatal effects of misogyny
Actually just the entirety of my #male violence tag and #patriarchal culture tag
In any case, the 4B movement is a form of female separatism. (And notably, not a conservative movement. It is specifically designed to disrupt the current status quo and prioritize women who are marginalized under conservative ideology.)
Conclusion
So, no, women do not need to "understand these points", because "these points" are either factually inaccurate, a misunderstanding of the terms and movements involved, or a simple rejection of feminist principles with a pseudo-liberal veneer.
References below the cut:
The history of sex strikes. (2019, May 16). BBC Three. https://www.bbc.com/bbcthree/article/1fc04f3e-3128-4be7-a78a-28ea31db4101
057. Lysistratic nonaction. (n.d.). Global Nonviolent Action Database; Global Nonviolent Action Database. https://nvdatabase.swarthmore.edu/category/gene-sharps-198/057-lysistratic-nonaction
Palmer, O. (2022, January 31). Political lesbianism remains a contentious debate in lesbian feminist circles—Is there a generational divide? Feminist Current. https://www.feministcurrent.com/2022/01/30/political-lesbianism-remains-a-contentious-debate-in-lesbian-feminist-circles-is-there-a-generational-divide/
Kuk, J., Park, H., & Norma, C. (2018, November 8). Radical feminism paves the way for a resurgent South Korean women’s movement. Feminist Current. https://www.feministcurrent.com/2018/11/07/radical-feminism-paves-way-resurgent-south-korean-womens-movement/
Lee, J., & Jeong, E. (2021). The 4B movement: envisioning a feminist future with/in a non-reproductive future in Korea. Journal of Gender Studies, 30(5), 633-644.
“Around 830 women die every day due to preventable pregnancy complications. The world is missing an estimated 90 to 100 million women due to the extermination of female – not feminine – infants. In such a situation, to boldly declare that you “see no sex difference” reveals both ignorance and privilege. We’re back to the idea that female people cannot be credible witnesses to their own lives.”
— Glosswitch, “When Did Liberal Men Start Thinking it Was Acceptable to Tell Feminists How to be Feminist?” (via lavenderbunnies)
“Our brains were two million years in the making. That long, slow accretion doubled our cranial capacity. And the first thing we did with it was say thank you. We drew the megafauna and the megafemales, sculpted and carved them. The oldest known figurative sculpture is the Goddess of Hohle Fels, and 40,000 years ago someone spent hundreds of hours carving Her. There is no mystery here, not to me: the animals and the women gave us life. Of course they were our first, endless art project. Awe and thanksgiving are built into us, body and brain. Once upon a time, we knew we were alive. And it was good.
And now we leave the realm of miracles and enter hell.
Patriarchy is the ruling religion of the planet. It comes in variations―some old, some new, some ecclesiastical, some secular. But at bottom, they are all necrophilic. Erich Fromm describes necrophilia as “the passion to transform that which is alive into something unalive; to destroy for the sake of destruction; the exclusive interest in all that is purely mechanical.” In this religion, the worst sin is being alive, and the carriers of that sin are female. Under patriarchy, the female body is loathsome; its life-giving fat-cells vilified; its generative organs despised. Its natural condition is always ridiculed: normal feet must be turned into four-inch stubs; rib cages must be crushed into collapse; breasts are varyingly too big or too small or excised entirely. That this inflicts pain―if not constant agony―is not peripheral to these practices. It’s central. When she suffers, she is made obedient.”
― Lierre Keith, ‘The Girls and the Grasses’
women please take self defence classes and do not listen to men that tell you it’s futile to fight against a man. learning to defend yourself from men is not the same as when men fight each other, you are not trying to beat the shit out of him, you are trying to hurt him just enough so that you can get away. you can learn techniques to prevent a man from grabbing or choking you or how to escape a grip on you. men can knock you out or kill you if they land a proper punch but you can reduce the chances of that happening. even if you’re very small, it really doesn’t hurt to be able to dodge a punch from a man but it’s something you have to practice. it doesn’t matter how strong he is if he misses.
The lie that testosterone is going to harm your gorgeous body is the most sinister thing I can think to tell young men. Testosterone is not going to make you sick, harm you, or turn you into an unrecognizable monster.
Testosterone is going to make you happier than you’ve ever been in your life. Testosterone is going to make you look down at yourself and finally smile, because the yearning is over. Your skin and your bones finally fit just right, instead of feeling foreign and out of place. Testosterone is going to let you finally reach an enlightened, happier version of yourself. Why would you ever tell someone the opposite if it’s not out of hatred and wishing to see them suffer?
This Bridge Called My Back: Writings by Radical Women of Color edited by Cherríe Moraga and Gloria Evangelina Anzaldúa
S.C.U.M. Manifesto by Valerie Solanas
Sister Outsider by Audre Lorde
Who Cooked the Last Supper? The Women's History of the World. by Rosalind Miles
Invisible Women: Exposing Data Bias in a World Designed for Men by Caroline Emma Criado Perez
Right-Wing Women by Andrea Dworkin
Men Who Hate Women: From Incels to Pickup Artists: The Truth about Extreme Misogyny and How it Affects Us All by Laura Bates
fuck world peace what i want is to magically instill every woman and girl on earth with the primary directive of "fight for yourself and your wellbeing & happiness as hard as you possibly can and never stop until you have peace within yourself"